Wooden bullet 7.62x39?

vampire rounds?

Yeah, I saw the stuff, too. One thing I noticed is that they didn't publish any ballistics information.

Weird.

Target shooting might become dangerous if you could get a splinter in your finger when you load your mags...

I'd be worried about the charge behind it and if it was enough to compromise the integrity of the wooden bullet...

Ummm I mean, I'd be worried about the bullet exploding into tiny splinters if fired. I mean are these full power with a wooden bullet? If not will they pretty much be semi-auto, have enough power to cycle the action?

The bullet is a thin walled wooden tube swagged into bullet shape. It's hollow and open at the base. So the gases tear it apart and it exits the barrel as splinters. That's why there isn't any ballistics info.

What's it for? Action practice? Grenade launching?

They were blanks for war games. The AK's would have a splintering device fitted to the muzzle (just in case) and the bullet would keep the pressure high enough to cycle the action. The ones I've seen shot all splintered without the muzzle device though.

So they're splinter firing Blanks?

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American solution:
Requires an unwieldy stamped metal blank firing device attached to the muzzle to ensure proper backpressure for weapon cycling.

Russian solution:
Wooden bullets.



(edit :turjake says they do indeed require a BFA, see below)

the box looks like lapua

Now I know what those are. I saw them in the catalog and was completely confused.

American solution:
Requires an unwieldy stamped metal blank firing device attached to the muzzle to ensure proper backpressure for weapon cycling.

Russian solution:
Wooden bullets.

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Hahaha! How true!

These cycle without BFA? Cool.

I'd buy them if I had an AK, just so I could make lots of noise on New Years or 4th of July or any other excuse that you can make lots of noise with things that go boom.

Also, it is brass cased. Probably berdan primed, but still, you can use them to reload.

Hey, how would you think a wax bullet would work? Like parafin wax, it'd just burn up.

Oh, and if you reload it, there's a few ways to remove berdan primers, with the RCBS tool being the most stupid way, from what I've read.

The traditional way is to just make a pointy hook, and puncture the primer, and pull it out.

Here's some pics:





You could also use hydraulic decapping. You fill the case up with water, and since water cant be compressed, when you try to compress it, it forces the berdan primer out.



Still, Berdan primers are more expensive and harder to get than Boxer primers. I think it'd be much better to figure out a way to reuse them. I wanna make friends with someone that works at an ammo factory, so he can get me the primer goop. You could just flatten out the firing pin hit, and then refill it. The berdans are better suited for it, if you get them out water decapping, as the anvil isnt as fragile like on a boxer primer. You could possibly improvise your way to make some priming compound, the most common way is strike anywhere matches, but those are hard to find most places now, and the amount of primer good you'd get from them probably isnt very much. The only simpler thing you can make is AP, Acetone Peroxide, where you mix acetone and peroxide together, and you get a primary explosive, but it comes out as crystals, and it could possibly be too sensitive to work with for primers.

...memory lane...

Hello,
I've seen the stuff before, they're used by the Finnish army for blanks.
They require a muzzle attachment to cycle the action. It looks like a comp but with a narrow tube that goes into the barrel, and fastened into the flash hider with a screw. It directs the splinters sideways. The rounds are loaded with pistol powder, N310 IIRC, and with the attachment they produce a sluggish full auto simulation.

The wooden bullet can cause injury and will fly off unpredictably. What was more exciting was that on occasion somebody forgot to tighten the screw and of course the steel attachment would fly off towards some unfortunate opponent...if you could duck and avoid it you knew that the next round would not be shattered...

Many nations have used wooden bullet blanks, including the British, French, German, Japanese, Swedes, Russians, etc.

During WWII, U.S. forces came into contact with German and Japanese wooden bullet blanks and jumped to the conclusion that those $*$&$%(*$# Japs/Nazis were shooting wooden bullets that would wound our soldiers and could not be detected by X-ray machines. Many WWII vets still believe this, and every time I post it I hear from someone whose father or uncle or grandfather told him it was true.

Not so. The "bullets" are just hollow shells and the powder charge actually goes up into them to ensure they blow apart.

Jim

It is Lapua, it is berdan, and the brass does not lend itself to reloading even if you're berdan enabled. Fairly expensive noise makers is what they are. When they first hit SG, they were advertised as Boxer primed.

So here's the real question... Can you take out the wooden bullet and put a plain ol .311 in there?

400 rds. 7.62x39 mm 5-gr. Wooden Bullet Ammo
$49.97

800 rds. 7.62x39 mm 5-gr. Wood Bullet Ammo
$94.97

2,000 rds. 7.62x39 mm 5-gr. Wood Bullet Ammo
$229.97


Doesn't seen too bad if you want to "roll your own" with some already primed brass...

You could remove the wooden blank bullet and load a normal bullet.

BUT IF YOU USE THE BLANK POWDER THAT IS IN THAT CASE, YOU WILL BLOW THE RIFLE TO PIECES AND PROBABLY HURT YOURSELF BADLY!!!!

Never, never load a bullet ahead of blank powder. If you dump the blank powder and use a normal charge of a standard powder, it should work OK. But you will be neck expanding and working with a primed case, so be careful.

Jim

So just use them for what they are, blanks?

Never, never load a bullet ahead of blank powder. If you dump the blank powder and use a normal charge of a standard powder, it should work OK. But you will be neck expanding and working with a primed case, so be careful.

Jim

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I kind of figured that, but thanks for the additional warning.