Paintball drive by shooting mistaken for real gun!

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"I saw that video a while back and all of the bystanders where complete idiots. One even said "I thought I was dead for a couple seconds after they shot me." I usually go paintballing in shorts it hurts about half as much as getting shot with an airsoft gun, exept when you get a blister. Liars, they just said what ever the camera man told them to."


This difference here is that when you go paintballing you are EXPECTING to get shot with a paintball. I can see where you may think this if you are walking down the street minding your business and you suddenly get struck with a projectile.
 
I'm trying to work out what the High Road response to that post would be, GunNoob. I'm having difficulty.

You seem very proud of yourself. I did stupid things when I was a teenager, too, but I don't tend to be proud of them.
 
I wasn't proud, it was just some childish fun. At the time, I wasn't thinking of the hazards involved.
 
yes they are, a hammer is designed to bash nails, if used as a weapon it is a weapon, same as paint markers.

No, a hammer is designed to bash heads. They predate nails by quite a bit.

by that definition your laptop is a weapon, your keyboard is a weapon, etc. Anything can be used as a weapon. But by design, like the keyboard, the paintball gun is not intended to cause harm to it's target and is not a weapon.

yeah right. PB guns are designed to hurt when you get shot with them. That's harm. That it isn't lethal is beside the point.
 
razorburn
it's created as a toy, to be part of a game, just like a paintball gun.

A toy that can maim a person who is not wearing protection for the "Game", even at safe Game level of power.

Shoot at an unprotected person DO NOT be surprised when you are shot and killed with a real gun.

The ability to do grievous harm makes the shoot a justifiable homicide.

Playing like a moron and get removed from the Gene pool is called natural selection. Time to Grow up.
 
In my original post, my main concern wasnt whether or not paintball guns ARE weapons, but the fact that I could not tell they werent guns that fire bullets. They had no bright markings on the barrel sticking out of the window. If I saw what looked like a real gun barrel whether it was a paintball gun or a water gun, I would attempt to save my own life by shooting the person pointing it at me...its after the fact that things may get complicated.

As far as not shooting at a moving vehicle...I would attempt to find cover and at worst hopefully I would at least make myself a moving target if there was no cover. However I would shoot in defense if at all possible for two reasons:
  1. I think if someone is getting shot at they are less likely to shoot or continue shooting
  2. If Im going to die by a gunshot wound, I want to take the BG with me, and I truly believe that it would take longer to register that they were shooting paintballs than it would to return fire...
 
Paintball guns are hazardous. Shooting an innocent bystander with one on purpose is not "innocent child play".

If a stranger shoots at you with anything (other than a Nerf product or an obvious squirtgun, obviously loaded with an inert liquid), well, take cover if you can and fire back with whatever you got. And don't stop 'till there is no more threat :)

In the few precious seconds before you are actually hit with something there is no way you can tell how dangerous the flying projectiles he is sending in your direction really are. Consider them MORE lethal than whatever you are packing.
 
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Razorburn
That is a seriously uncool attitude you are displaying. You've been around a while so I would think you are aware of the code of "attack the post not the poster" here on THR.
 
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razorburn, wrong again

I may not be accredited with a degree from some fine upstanding university, but I did live in Furnald Dormitory for awhile.
Just in case you don't know where Furnald is, it is 116th st and Broadway in a little university known as Columbia.
I have been condescended too and won chess games against folks who have far more PHD's then you can ever...er..."dream" of.

Nope, no degree. Yet your stinging comments really made me yearn for a sheepskin so I could yell out from the mountain tops "I have a degree, I am learned! I am better then those uneducated slobs who toil in the fields and factories!"

Not.

Now back to weapons, a paint ball marker, commonly referred to as a gun and used in pretty serious mock combat could legally be considered a weapon by the fact that it does shoot projectiles...

Now...I could be wrong... (it happens so rarely that I find the word to be inhospitable to my keyboard)
Yet...somehow...I...just ...know....that I am not!

btw, you know...you could try decaff!:neener:
 
With respect to the legal aspects of it...whether or not a paintball gun is or is not a "real weapon" isn't really the point. The issue is whether a reasonable person in the same situation would reasonably believe that they were in danger of suffering death or grievous bodily harm right here and right now. Further, using your own firearm to stop the attack is the only reasonable option right here and right now. If you pass those tests, then the use of lethal force is justified.

So, if you absolutely KNOW the "gun" is a paintball marker...I think you'd have a hard time justifying the use of lethal force. If all you know is that someone is pointing a "gun" at you and shooting, then you're on firmer ground.
 
perhaps, perhaps not

I "know" that a neighbor was blinded by one so shooting some one to prevent your own maiming is reasonable, even in places like CA!
 
gunsmith said:
I "know" that a neighbor was blinded by one so shooting some one to prevent your own maiming is reasonable, even in places like CA!
This may sound silly, but I personally know someone who was severely burned by a pot of rice. Literally. Needed skin grafts and everything. That doesn't mean I'd be justified in shooting someone who came at me with a box of Uncle Ben's. :neener:

I think you'd have a very hard time justifying a shoot on self-defense grounds if you know for sure that it's "just" a paintball marker. Especially when paintball markers were specifically designed for people to shoot each other with them in the context of, you know...a kid's game. Just like a reasonable person wouldn't fear grave bodily harm from rice, a reasonable person probably wouldn't fear grave bodily harm from a paintball marker. It'd be a tough sell.
 
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