I propose replacing the term "gun nut" with "gun geek" or "gun nerd". Thoughts?

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Personally, I'm against the constant redefinition of our terminology. First it was "knockdown power" but since a bullet doesn't actually knock anyone down it became "stopping power" but since a bullet doesn't actually stop anyone...etc., etc. Then we replaced "accidental discharge" with "negligent discharge". We don't go around calling traffic accidents "traffic negligents" even though negligence is almost always the cause of a collision. Heck, it wasn't all that long ago that "pistol" meant a gun capable of being fired one handed. Remember the original "revolving pistol"? Now it's any handgun EXCEPT a revolver.

I can't even keep up with what the "correct" terminology of the week is anymore. We're becoming as politically correct as our opponents, just in our own way. I see it as a form of snobbery and it makes newcomers to our sport uncomfortable.

The antis will always misuse our terms. Changing them to accomodate the antis is just caving to their pressure. I say stick to terms we've always used. It's part of our heritage and history.
 
My take is that "gun nut" is self-depreciating humor.

As do I. The more it gets used in this way the less it can be taken as offensive. <pfff> I know a few people who walk around wearing a shirt that says "Infidel". Sort of the same thing, eh? Makes it hard for someone to maliciously call you something when you've done it first.


-T.
 
Only collective opinion over time can make a difference here, but my own take is that "geek" and "nerd" are a bit too close to "dork" and "dweeb."
 
Only collective opinion over time can make a difference here, but my own take is that "geek" and "nerd" are a bit too close to "dork" and "dweeb."

I have to agree. The terms "geek" & "nerd" bring to mind (mine at least) a bunch of social misfits who repair their glasses with tape, spend their Fridays nights playing Magic:The Gathering and bickering about the resolution of a stack of interrupts & instants on a creature summoning.

Uhmm, wait a minute... :uhoh:

"Gun Nut" feels right to my ears.
 
Gosh, I don't know, the whole discussion reminds me of a debate over whether Star Trek fans should be called "Trekkies" or "Trekkers". :scrutiny:

In any event, I prefer "person of gun".:rolleyes:
 
The antis will always misuse our terms. Changing them to accomodate the antis is just caving to their pressure. I say stick to terms we've always used. It's part of our heritage and history.

That's just it, though. We've not "always" used those terms. The meaning of a word changes throughout history, particularly in areas involving technical topics. For instance:

- We used to call all things computing related "computers". Now we call them personal computers, calculators, mainframes, switches, etc. - the field has expanded.
- We used to call all 4-wheeled motorized vehicles "automobiles" (or some variation thereof like "motor car"- there wasn't much consistency at the beginning). Now we've got cars, trucks, SUVs, jeeps/Jeeps, minivans - et cetera. That doesn't change the fact that the term "automobile" is still applicable. The additional terms have come into being because they were necessary for differential (just as terms like "motor car" have gone out of style due to their unnecessary distinction - what other kind of car can there be than one with a motor, after all).

We still use "accidental discharge" - it just means something different than "negligent discharge" does; one indicates an honest-to-god accident, such as having your finger slip on the hammer and it falls on a non-empty chamber, or having a piece of brush bumping the trigger accidentially (similar to being blindsided in a car, hitting ice on a turn, etc.); the other is illustrative of negligence, like dry-firing at a wall and having the gun go boom (running a light, hitting someone in your blind spot, etc.). Yes, it's also an accident (nobody intends for that kind of stuff to happen), but it's a distinction which is necessary to make: the difference is the degree of the mistake, and possibly whether it was dumb luck or a brain fart, or genuine stupidity and/or ignorance.

There's a good reason for the use of "pistol" to mean anything but revolvers in colloquialism; it gets really, really irritating to say "auto-loading pistol", "semi-automatic pistol" or some other variant. "Pistol" is shorter than any of them and means the same thing. Besides, "handgun" serves the role "pistol" previously meant.

In short, firearms, cars, and computers (as well as other things) are all new technology in the scheme of things; the etymology changes a LOT, and it has nothing at all to do with what liberals are supposedly calling things. Idiots call the computer's monitor "the computer". Some people assume that everything under the hood of a car is "the engine". That can't be avoided.

The fact is that we, as humans, put everything within the context of imagery within our minds, and then try and communicate that imagery using words. We need to use concise words in order to communicate effectively. If we are too verbose or laconic, the image or idea we are trying to convey is either mutilated or lost utterly. A person must use the correct words.

It's necessary to redefine our language; doing so is indicative (though not conclusive) of a healthy culture and society. (What, you don't want to be like the French, who put legal restrictions on language change and mutilation, do you?)

More on pistol etymology/history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol
 
I like runfrumu's one, "firearm aficionado". It seems classy. Oh and BTW SKilune, there is a gay gun organization, its called the Pink Pistols. http://www.pinkpistols.com/
That is the common ground I have found between myself and some of the gays I know, they like their constitutional rights just as much as we do.
 
Like it or not, gun nut is here to stay. As in "Bob over there is a gun nut. Head for his house when the Martian Zombie Ray is fired at Earth."

A gun nut is someone who likes to shoot but is otherwise not an expert in firearms tech, politics, history, etc.

A gun geek is someone who knows a significant amount about firearms tech, politics, history, etc. Internet fora such as this one take gun nuts and refinish them into gun geeks.

Then there is the gun guru. This is someone who is such an expert on firearms that they have forgotten more stuff about them than most people even imagine existed to know.

Gunnie sounds just like Gunny which is an informal title in the Marine Corps for Gunnery Sergeant, and is thus a title meaning official badass. Thus, I personally do not believe that Gunnie is a label that applies to most gun owners, including myself.
 
I just tell people I'm a Second Amendment activist.

Exercising my rights goes hand in hand with defending them.
 
Caimlas, that was a well thought out reply. Thank you. I understand it's a lot to do with the evolution of the language. But as they say "just cuz it's so, doesn't mean I gotta like it!" :)

I can understand a lot of terminology changes with new technologies, as we work them into common language usage, but firearms are an old technology. Their terminoloy was, for the most part, worked out successfully before most of us were born. Besides, I kinda like being called a gun nut.
 
Firearms enthusiast.

More sillabulls is a good thing.

Big words connotes big brain, higher IQ. Don't run from large words, run to them.
 
I will not be a part of any movement attempting to modify language so it will not be offensive to any special interest group. That includes a group that includes me.

The so-called “enlightened ones” have made it inappropriate to use words they find offensive. The word "queer” comes to mind. In this emotionally charged post, I am unable to think of another, but I will edit as needed. An example of how a derogatory term has become a term of endearment is ham radio operator. Originally, “ham” referred to ham fisted amateurs.

What is proposed, this chlorination of the language, is analogous to an anti-gunner shooting up a public facility to show his disdain of firearms. It’s preposterous.

I’m a nut. Always will be.
Anyone that has a problem with that strikes me as queer.
 
How about:

firearm fan

gun fan

gun devotee

gun player
 
Instead of wasting time thinking of neat-o terms to call one another, you can have a more substantial impact on changing our image by setting a positive example of the typical American gun owner. Not to mention taking a non-shooter shooting.

If George Carlin were dead, he'd roll over in his grave knowing you all are trying to think of different ways to call something, something else.

It's not "garbage man"... it's "waste management specialist"... ;)
 
well gun geek is fine with me, but i am already a geek by profession (and hobby). So "gun geek", "gun nut", "shooter", "that guy with too many guns", etc, they all work for me :D
 
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