Owen
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the war is only half of it. The other half is that comoddity prices are out of control.
Its about to get more expensive to enjoy our hobby
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10 Ring Tao
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Hopefully peace time will bring some relief for the military calibers.
GTSteve03
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Drag racing, airplanes and yachting are your examples of the kinds of hobbies the common guy does? The common guy sure is making a lot more money than I am.
And what, besides fuel, has gone up for these hobbies over 100% in price?
Ala Dan
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Natchez refuses too ship to Alabama, so I have little use for their company.
ny32182
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We get it... you're rich and enjoy drawing as much attention as possible to that fact wherever you go.
To many of us mere mortals out there though, the price of ammo is actually a contributing factor in how much we can buy. Shocking.
The more you know...
mtnbkr
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I stopped having a use for Natchez when they charged me for a box of bullets, but shipped one single bullet. When I called to let them know of the error, they claimed I ordered a single bullet. 
Chris
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Danus ex
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Anyone know if new copper or lead mines are being opened (or old ones being reopened)? As far as I know, large-scale mining in the United States went belly-up before we could really plunder the landscape for all it had.
R.W.Dale
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Shooting and reloading is by far the CHEAPEST hobby I've had. In case you under a rock types haven't noticed a gallon of milk now cost's over $4 and a quart of name brand motor oil is over $3 This is the first real price increase since I started shooting 7yrs ago I wish prices of other items I buy were so stable.
But hey why not try to fit in.
The sky is falling the sky is falling!
But hey why not try to fit in.
The sky is falling the sky is falling!
JLelli
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When the global economy slows down, and demand for metals falls. The only problem there, is that when the economy slows, wages tend to fall, so your position hasn't really gained.
JLelli
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I know that there is still a ****load of copper underneath Michigan's Upper Peninsula (once the world's richest copper-mining region), but the collapse in the price of copper a few decades ago, driven by low-cost open-pit mining operations out west and in foreign countries, caused all the mines to close (the last copper mine in Michigan closed in 1995). Now, economics dictate that, when the price of copper goes high enough, these mines will re-open, but new mining regs put in place by Jenny Granholm ("blowing away" Michigan since 2002) make it all but impossible to open new mines.
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JLelli
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This is by no means the first price increase in seven years. Heck, just two years ago you could still get 1,000 rounds of 7.62x39 for under $100, and I have the Cabela's catalgue to prove it.
CDignition
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lol.. too funny... I'm far from rich, but own my home outright, have no CC debt, and my wife works 2 days a week.
Thing is most of you complainers are younger types(mid 20's) that think the world is owed to you.. I sacrificed my ass off and paid my home off in 6 years...I didn't do ANY shooting or anything else in those 6 years(Except work 60 Hrs a week).. now I can, and do other things as well...with no $$$ worries for a hobby.
And as far as Dragracing goes(What I used to do) VP C16 is now over $12 a gallon...It was less than 6 when I was active(2003).
I DO like my H2 tho..
Thing is most of you complainers are younger types(mid 20's) that think the world is owed to you.. I sacrificed my ass off and paid my home off in 6 years...I didn't do ANY shooting or anything else in those 6 years(Except work 60 Hrs a week).. now I can, and do other things as well...with no $$$ worries for a hobby.
And as far as Dragracing goes(What I used to do) VP C16 is now over $12 a gallon...It was less than 6 when I was active(2003).
I DO like my H2 tho..
That's nothing....try acquiring a year's supply of matter-antimatter for a transwarp drive....or anything to do with a flux capacitor....or a good sized teleportation device (20 parsecs and up)....this is nothing...
But Internet is free...so you can floss all you want right here. We wont know.
Next time, try adding something of value to the discussion, eh?
For the more common Joe's that shoot regularly, having ammo prices increase the way they have is like having gas prices go from $3.00 a gallon to $4.50 a gallon. (AE 9mm went from $6.00 to $9.00 a box.) Will that stop me from driving or shooting? No, but it does make enough of a dent that my future purchases will be made with mileage/caliber in mind. It's definitely a consideration, and it has nothing to do with me thinking "the world owes me."
Last week, our local range was only about half full. I said to the Range Manager, "Slow day today, eh?" He said, "Before, people used to come in, buy $50 in ammo, and shoot all day. Now, they buy $50 in ammo, shoot it up by 1:00pm, then go home. The rise in turnover here is a direct result of the spike in ammo prices." That's NOT nothing.
CDignition
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"More Common Joe's".. is that lowbrow speak for Burger Flipper at Mc D's?? Get a real job,lol.
SaMx
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Next time, try adding something of value to the discussion, eh?
joe4702
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I recently got out of motorcycling. Once reason was between gas and ammo prices, something had to give. Two expensive hobbies was too much. I'll never give up shooting, so out went the bike.
My net worth is such that I don't really need a job. For all intents and purposes, I'm retired at 35. I just don't feel the need to compensate for something by rubbing other people's noses in it. And you? Why do you feel the need to hijack the OP's thread to talk about you, you, you?
The topic at hand is inflation of ammo prices. Either add to it, or leave.
And buy some people skills if you can afford them.
budney
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The war is certainly taking its toll. In Vietnam, an estimated 50,000 rounds were fired per enemy killed. I found that astonishing, but one estimate says that in Iraq something like 250,000 rounds are fired per enemy killed. That's gotta put a dent in the ammo market.
--Len.
Oohrah
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Yep, wonder if replacing AKs with M4's and ammo to our friendly
Iraqis have anything to do with shortages and price increases.
Lets see, we get to pay for the above and deal with a dryed up
source. Then we get to deal with increased prices. Isn't sharing
great?
Iraqis have anything to do with shortages and price increases.
Lets see, we get to pay for the above and deal with a dryed up
source. Then we get to deal with increased prices. Isn't sharing
great?
lee n. field
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And that will be when?
I decided a couple weeks ago that it was high time to get into casting. Equipment is making it's way here as we speak. Yes I have a source for lead.
Not very "high road" . The good paying trades that supported the "common man" in my area have all left the country and the preponderance of the jobs here now are service industry , to serve those that sold out their fellow man . Btw , every job is a "real job" . The world needs ditch diggers more than they need pompous fat cats .
Now as far as ammo prices go , it sucks , but people buying as much as they can to stockpile only exasperates the situation by creating that much more demand . People buying enough to last the next 20 years or buying by the pallet are only driving the price up . People running out and emptying the shelves any time there is an increase in price only pushes the supply and demand aspect to fruition . Top all that off with the increase in metal prices/fuel cost/war/greed , and you get the increases we are seeing today .
As for me , i now buy 1/4 more than I plan on shooting at the range ( excluding milsurp tins) . I've got enough ammo to keep me shooting for a few years , but have been slowly adding to the cache over time . I could probably buy a lot more , but I don't want to be "that guy" that keeps a fellow shooter from being able to enjoy the sport .
drive an H2 huh?
no kidding - we would have never guessed....
reloading does save a bundle - and its a great way to avoid Walmart or huge shipping costs and delays (try finding reasonable .223)
Just be sure your investments are in materials also - if you gotta spend more you better be making more!
no kidding - we would have never guessed....
reloading does save a bundle - and its a great way to avoid Walmart or huge shipping costs and delays (try finding reasonable .223)
Just be sure your investments are in materials also - if you gotta spend more you better be making more!
Mantua
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"CDIgnition" said:
Funny, that is my real job. I really work there. It REALLY buys my ammo. lolol!!11
Wicked funny, guy.
Anyway, I don't complain about the price of ammo any more often than I complain about the price of gas. I'm still gonna drive (to Mc D's, lol), and I'm still gonna shoot. More reason to reload, I suppose.
Redneck with a 40
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Even with the component cost increase, I can still load for my XD-40 for 13 cents/round and my 357 magnum will be 14 cents/round. I can still afford to shoot quite a bit at that price, reloading is my salvation.
Since I beat the price increase on my last batch of components, my current ammo cost for 40 S&W is 11 cents/round and my 357 mag is running 13 cents/round. 40 S&W = $5.50/50, 357 mag = $6.50/50.
Since I beat the price increase on my last batch of components, my current ammo cost for 40 S&W is 11 cents/round and my 357 mag is running 13 cents/round. 40 S&W = $5.50/50, 357 mag = $6.50/50.
Ukraine Train
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How much ammunition is actually being used in Iraq? I bet the amount of lead, brass, and copper that goes over there is a drop in the bucket compared to the demand in developing Asian countries.
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