California, LA county, mail order?

SEC. 55.11. RECORDS OF AMMUNITION SALES.

(Amended by Ord. No. 172,002, Eff. 6/5/98.)

(a) The term “firearm ammunition” shall mean any ammunition for use in a pistol, revolver or other firearm, as that term is defined in Section 103.314 of this Code.

(b) The term “vendor”, as used in this section, shall mean any person who is engaged in the retail sale of firearm ammunition and retail firearms dealers.

(c) No vendor shall sell or otherwise transfer ownership of any firearm ammunition without at the time of purchase recording the following information on a form to be prescribed by the Board of Police Commissioners:

1. the date of the transaction,

2. the name, address and date of birth of the transferee,

3. the transferee’s drivers license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued,

4. the brand, type and amount of ammunition transferred,

5. the transferee’s signature, and

6. the name of the sales person who processed the transaction.

The vendor shall also at the time of purchase or transfer obtain the right thumb print of the purchaser or transferee on the above form.

(d) The records required by this section shall be maintained on the premises of the vendor for a period of not less than two (2) years from the date of the recorded transfer. Said records shall be subject to inspection at any time during normal business hours in accordance with the provisions of Section 103.14 of this Code.

(e) No person shall knowingly make a false entry in, or fail to make a required entry in, or fail to obtain the required thumb print, or fail to maintain in the required manner records prepared in accordance herewith. No person shall refuse to permit a police department employee to examine any record prepared in accordance with this section during any inspection conducted pursuant to this section, or refuse to permit the use of any record or information therefrom by the police department.

(f) The requirements of this section shall not apply to:

1. any person described in Section 12302 or 12322 of the Penal Code of the State of California.

2. any off-duty peace officer who displays proper agency identification which identifies him or her as an active peace officer.

3. any person who has been issued a permit to carry a concealed weapon under the authority of Section 12050 of the Penal Code of the State of California

4. any security guard licensed under the authority of Section 12033 of the Penal Code of the State of California.

5. any firearms dealer who has been issued a Federal Firearms License, a Certificate of Eligibility by the State of California and a Seller of Firearms Police Permit by the City of Los Angeles.

(g) Violation of this section shall constitute a misdemeanor.

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For some reason I thought the Firearm Owners Protection Act allowed mail order ammunition? This is a federal law and since we don't follow the 10th amendment anymore should have precedence over an ordinance....maybe?

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Illinois Online Gun Sting Draws Scrutiny, Federal Criticism
By John O'connor Associated Press Writer
Published: Dec 20, 2001

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) - Worried about illegal gun sales, Attorney General Jim Ryan had his staff surf the Internet last year looking for criminals. The sting netted six weapon sales and a single conviction but no jail time.
Since then, federal authorities have criticized Ryan's approach and the attorney general's own chief lawyer admitted four of the cases were dropped over fears sellers were improperly lured into illegal actions.

David Chipman, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, criticized the lone conviction against a Michigan man who sold a submachine gun. He said Ryan's office did not cooperate with the ATF to build a stronger case or force the man to help find other dealers.

It's not clear what Ryan expected to accomplish. His aides have said the sting was meant to nab crooks. They also have said it was simply to gather information because they knew that no state law applied.

Ryan's office has also called the probe a success that produced a change in state law.

In early 2000, Ryan's office spent $5,200 to buy six weapons - a British Sten Mark II machine gun, three AK-47s, an Israeli Galil assault rifle and a semiautomatic pistol from an Ohio police officer. Most were chosen from an online post for legally selling and swapping weapons.

Ryan's staff was able to buy the weapons without the required transfer through gun dealers with federal firearms licenses, or FFLs. To do that, the investigators had to tell the sellers - falsely - that the transactions were legal.

"I need to send it to an FFL dealer, right? Don't I need a copy of an FFL from you?" a seller of an AK-47 asked via e-mail.

"If you are not a dealer and just a private citizen, you can sell directly to me," investigator Tom Berola responded, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press through the Freedom of Information Act. "If I lived down the street from you we would not need a dealer to sell to each other, would we?"

State law prohibits convicting people who are "incited or induced" into criminal activity. Police may encourage someone who is ready to commit a crime, but not lie about whether it's legal, said Paul Robinson, a Northwestern University law professor and former federal prosecutor.

Ryan's lawyers decided not to prosecute.

The case against the Ohio police officer who allegedly sold a handgun illegally was dropped for lack of evidence, a Ryan spokesman said.

The one prosecution was against Christopher Tocco, 36, of Goodrich, Mich. He pleaded guilty to unlawful use of a weapon - the submachine gun - and got two years' probation and 50 hours of community service.

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A couple of you folks said "Don't blame the company". Well, I certainly blame those companies, for they all have legal staff members that don't perform their duties properly!

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