MagPul FMG 9

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So essentially its a G17 with a buch of crap, I mean Polymer around it. And due to the tacticool nature of the FMG-9, im sure it will cost $1000+.
 
I can never understand such retarded designs, really. Can that thing get any more idiotic?

argument: It's concealable.

counter: so are pistols and machine pistols. And with these you just have to unholster and start shooting, without extending the stock, in an emergency situation. No folding crap necessary.

Firearms are really a mature technology. All we are seeing now is a bunch of mall ninja, "let's add more parts"-type firearms.

Maybe I'm just blind? Can anybody here give some real good reasons why this is a fine weapon for who ever may need it?
 
"It's nothing I'll ever own, but it seems to me that it would be a great tool for an AirMarshal or like professional. It definitely has a place in security operations."

I can withdraw a concealed quicker than I can unfold that contraption so no, there is no place for that in security operations IMO.
 
argument: It's concealable.

counter: so are pistols and machine pistols. And with these you just have to unholster and start shooting, without extending the stock, in an emergency situation. No folding crap necessary.
I'll take a stock nearly everytime if you give me the option. I just shoot much better with one. I really have no practical use for a super compact handgun with a stock but it would make a cool toy and I'd buy one if I could own sbr's here and it were made. I imagine there are plenty of hikers, backpackers, travelers and the like who would like to throw such a gun in their bag.
 
Yes it's an SBR, and yes I can own one in GA (have a shortie AR15).

What's particularly nifty is that when folded it doesn't "look like a gun", but pops open into modern sensibilites. Useful for, say, a "trunk gun" that won't garner attention when attention is not wanted. Too many folding guns don't sufficiently cover or conceal key parts.
 
As an SMG it may make sense for security professionals who need more firepower than a pistol, but don't want to pack something that is readily identifiable as an SMG. Secret Service and other bodyguard types come to mind.
 
It can find a niche in the security market place, especially if you use a Glock 18 instead of the glock 17 and find some way to add an reflex/red dot sight to the overall package. Although maybe it need to be upgraded to a more powerful round?
 
I think it's a decent idea for aircrew, tankcrew and support. a kind of pdw that doesn't get in the way and is more practically effective than a pistol.

but wouldn't you rather have a .223 in that situation? something like the Magpul PDR? yes, this design might have had a place in a world that didn't use .223, pre-1960s, in a similar role to the m1 carbine.
 
stoner did it first, and best. Go watch Robocop again, the one where the 13 year old kid take over the cities drug trade. the kid has the original folding burpgun and its far far smaller then this FMG.
 
I think it's a decent idea for aircrew, tankcrew and support. a kind of pdw that doesn't get in the way and is more practically effective than a pistol.

I just don't get why it is more practically effective than a pistol. A stock makes that much of a difference? You can unholster your Glock pistol and shoot, this thing you would have have it stored somewhere and unfold it and then shoot. Its not that inconspicous to just carry around either, compared to a holstered pistol. It fires a pistol round in the end.
 
Yes one might be able to pull a concealed handgun out quicker (although I doubt people have seen how fast this thing unfolds, search youtube for it) but the point is you have a stock and vertical for-grip for better control and increased accuracy. Anyone who does not realize the potential for this set up is a moron. It is a pistol round which is great for the purposes of reducing over penetration in small confined areas which it would most likely be used and it’s internals is a GLOCK, aka tank, aka reliable, aka not a kel-tec!!! Yeah, it is not intended for full-blown combat but what moron would think it was? Instead of crapping on everything that does not have wooden stocks, pearl grips and that was made in the 1800's - give it a chance or don't buy it. The product does not yet have a release date but when it’s out I'll have one - for several reasons, one of which is: Because I can.
 
I just don't get why it is more practically effective than a pistol. A stock makes that much of a difference? You can unholster your Glock pistol and shoot, this thing you would have have it stored somewhere and unfold it and then shoot. Its not that inconspicous to just carry around either, compared to a holstered pistol. It fires a pistol round in the end.

The stock makes a huge difference for accuracy, even shooting pistol caliber ammunition. It would be slower to bring into action than a pistol, if carried folded up all the time, but I think the posters who envision it as a bail out weapon for aircraft or vehicles are onto something. You exit now dead vehicle/plane, and unfold your SMG and go. At this point you're much better armed than you'd be with a pistol.
 
The real question is why are some people getting so bent out of shape about this? It's an interesting gun even if YOU have no use for one. It's an interesting gun even if someone else has done it before. Get over yourself.
 
HorseSoldier is spot on! This was also my thinking when I stated that the weapon would be great for security professionals.
It's there & out of the way, largely unnoticed, when not needed, and folded out relatively quickly for when a diplomatic PSD in caught in a bad situation in an ordinarily permissive enviroment( an enivironment where one generally can travel w/ standard protective measures, such as most European, North American countries), where one may not be able to openly carry the larger shoulder fired weapons such as the MP5, 10.5"AR, M4 etc, like one does in a non-permissive environment ( such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Colombia, Yemen, etc)...
As for why I'll never own one, well, I can't think of a use for it in my nice, quiet, peaceful civilian life, other than killing paper, old water heaters, old cars and the like...well okay, I think I've talked my self into it!
000Buck, take your own advice...calm down pal! we're all friends here, you're right it is very interesting!
 
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