Problems at a Gun Show...

I'd have told him to leave me the **** alone and go stop some actual crimes.

personaly i would have asked him to help carry some of my purchases, since he was tagging along anyway!

personaly i would have asked him to help carry some of my purchases, since he was tagging along anyway!


i agree he coulda at least been helpful in some way

I would have been asking every single ammo vender if they had any of the "black cop killer ammo"

There are signs at the NH gun shows that I attend forbidding parking lot sales. I never really gave them any thought. Guess it's because I did not have anything to sell...

My common time at a show is two hours, so that deputy would have had a long morning with me.

Sounds like he's show boating for re-election and the anti votes. He refused to answer your question because he knew he was outside of the law. Should have a video camera available (cell phone) to record the incident. Also should have recorded telling the cop following you that he was making you nervous by following you and that you considered it harrassment. Then file a complaint. (that's all assuming you have tons of money for needless lawyer fees needed to protect your rights.)

Heck I usually spend at 4hrs to 5hrs so I don't miss anything, and at One of the last 1's there was more action/trading done in the parking lot than inside

People skills? We don' need no steenkin' people skills.

So a guy goes to a pharmacy and says "Gimme a bunch of uppers."

And the pharmacist says back to him "Lemme see your prescription."

Then the guy says "What's the difference with buying pills in here and buying on the street?"

So the pharmacist calls the cops and the guy says to them "Virtuous people challenge authority. So prove to me that you're really cops, show me proof of your training, prove that you own the gun on your hip, where is the registration for that car you drove, what size uniforms do you wear, and where is your evidence that the laws you say you are enforcing were ever passed? Give me the name of each legislator who voted for them, his or her age, and evidence that he/she was duly elected. Just sayin'."

No offense intended.

Maybe it can help to take a fresh look.

Our convention center has extensive contracts with a show organizer. It guarantees that the convention center will have no competing show of the same type on that same day (i.e, there won't be two gun shows at the same time). On that day it gives exclusive right to the show organizer to use the property for the intended purpose, exclusive of all other venders, swap meets, and private parties. This includes the entire property, not just the interior of the building. Since our local convention center is owned by the County, the county sheriff handles security and enforces the contract rather than a private security company.

It is quite possible that your deputy was just doing his job enforcing the convention center's contract. Maybe it had nothing to do with state or federal law. Also, maybe we should give some slack to the deputy who followed you. None of this was his fault, and he cannot refuse to do his job or he gets fired.

Without quoting any reference, "that don't sound right". I don't think they can totally stop you making a transaction unless the transaction is on private property. So... gun trades on the street?

Yeah I would have asked for a quote of the law they were enforcing and then ask what their name/badge number was. I like the police when they are doing their job but not when they are not.

-Kitchen

Was that the Norcross show? Could have driven across the street and made the sale. I like the carrying of the stuff though..."Protect and Serve"...did you feel safe? At least you had a loaded weapon handy in case it was needed.

TWO HOURS?

That's it? Man - I'd spend most of the day there. It takes a while to look and handle most of the guns, go through the books, etc.

Than you have to check out the girlfriends the other guys brought to see if you can snag one.

Nice job man, way to tell him like it is.

Don't ever be afraid to tell any public official how it really is if you know you are in the right. It must be done and the guy deserved it.

Next time call the NRA right in front of him and make a complaint. Ask them for the state AG's number and try calling him if available.

Never be afraid to do whats right. Never be afraid to exercise your rights.

Norcross... The Civic Center there frowns on deals outside of dealer tables. I sold a pistol there last year down the street, I had it with me but consumated the deal elsewhere.

It sort of the house rules. Still it is usually a good show.

Was Rifleman from Macon there? He is a good guy, a blind gun dealer that know his stuff and does good business. How about Pete from Hit&Run... he has the table with some Bren Guns on it, usually up front near doors.

I miss those good shows...

Maybe there were Anti's outside trying to document the terrible "gun-show loophole" and the Sheriff was just trying to prevent Billy Joe and Bubba from being on the 5 o'clock news for selling dangerous assault weapons of mass destruction out in the parking lot...

""All transactions are to be held inside the building only!" "

They rented the building and the parking lot, so their rules. No big deal. If the city made the rule, well, it's their property to manage as they see fit. I don't see what the problem is.

John

It is quite possible that your deputy was just doing his job enforcing the convention center's contract. Maybe it had nothing to do with state or federal law. Also, maybe we should give some slack to the deputy who followed you. None of this was his fault, and he cannot refuse to do his job or he gets fired.

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It is NOT the job of LE to enforce private contracts. Using the color of authority to do so is an abuse of power and they should be sanctioned for doing so.

None of this was his fault, and he cannot refuse to do his job or he gets fired.

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Like when the New Orleans cops went house-to-house confiscating legally owned firearms after Katrina? I hope you're this sympathetic and understanding when they come after you.

I'm not trying to be a smart a#$...but the main reason is that the show promoter and dealers are not there to provide you with a convenient opportunity and location to buy/sell your guns to/from other people. It is a business venture. I assume there was a cover charge? Would you pay that and buy a corn dog if you never had to go in the door? Secondly, from a legal perspective, they are trying to discourage 'door sharks' (back-door dealers) from running a business on their dime.

They solve the problem here in Phoenix by charging you a hefty fee for parking. They don't care if you do your business in the parking lot, because they already got a piece of you.

Smart fellas, these free market types.

I then had an officer follow me the whole time I was in the building

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That is pretty bad. Sounds like someone didn't like you questioning them, and wanted to punish you for it. Yup, badge numbers would have been in order here. Some LEOs are tough guys until you get their badge number.