Negligent / Accidental Discharges @ Shows?

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A friend mentioned he'd been to more than a handful of shows where inappropriate discharges occurred INSIDE the show. This even when everybody is supposed to be unloaded in the show. Any similar experiences?
 
Never been to one where that happened, or even heard about it happening at one before now. Seems like with all the "guns are dangerous" ilk going around people would be even more careful than usual.
 
Yeah, I was surprised as well...hence the thread. Hopefully everybody else's experiences are like yours and this thread will die a quick death.
 
I have been to hundreds of shows - as a vendor, security and spectator and have never seen or heard an ND. Although I don't doubt that is has happened, it would seem very rare and for your "friend" to have been at a "handful" of happenings seems highly doubtful. I think BS is the proper response to him.
 
Maybe. He's been an avid collector/shooter for over 50 years, so he's not a punk kid, either though. Definitely not the kind of guy to run his mouth off to impress anybody. His targets do that just fine.
 
Never been present for one but once we had inadvertantly over inflated the tires on my wife's wheelchair and she had a loud blowout. Scared the hell out of everyone.
 
In many years of going to gun shows in California, Nevada and now Arizona, I have not heard of or seen any. They are pretty "anal" about checking, clearing and zip-tying actions.
 
I was present at a show, when a dealers 9mm was discharged, and have reliable reports of at least two other incidents in the past.

The incident where I was present, involved dropping the mag, but not clearing the chamber before handing the gun to another dealer. All involved parties were ordered to pack up and leave, but I don't think any charges were filed.

Fortunately, nobody was injured!
 
A gun dealer buddy told me a story, about an "accidental" discharge at a gun show:

Some years back, he was set up at a gun show. There was a discharge from a rifle at a vendor next to him. He was called in as a witness at the trial, he had previously handled the rifle and it was not loaded. Interestingly enough, the guy who fired the rifle happened to be a known rabid anti-gunner.
 
Interestingly enough, the guy who fired the rifle happened to be a known rabid anti-gunner.
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When I first started to read this thread, the suspicion that anti-gunners might be loading guns at shows hoping to cause unintended discharges flashed into my mind. If so, I take that as proof that public safety is not one of their goals.
 
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how many lables do we need to add?
unxepected, accidental, negligent, inappropriate, mechanical, why not just add sewage to the list of discharges.
 
there was one at one of the houston shows last year. i guy had a loaded glock in his bag & either security missed it or he loaded after he entered. he pulled the gun out of his bag to have one of the vendors replace something on it & it went off. he was hauled out in cuffs. the local news was also at the show but showing their true colors they showed a guy being hauled out on a stretcher from a heart attack earlier in the day instead of the guy being hauled out in cuffs
 
It was a few minutes into the first Frisco, Texas gun show when a guy who worked on Glocks had a "sewage" discharge. I was across the room. What amazed me was the lack of reaction by gun afficionadoes. Most stood and gawked like typical street morons. I guess everyone was waiting for return fire before deciding to actually invest any energy into reacting.
 
Like i said in another thread on the same subject, I'm surprised it does not happen more often. Another thing, I don't know if this has anything to do with it but we all know that guns and alcohol don't mix, right. Most all the gun shows here in Reno, especially the ones at the casinos serve up a bunch of alcohol. Just a thought.
 
It happened to a dealer at the gun show in Springdale, AR last year. It was a .22 pistol IIRC. Dealer was asked to pack up and leave and never return. After that, the insurance company required armed security and all guns zip tied and no ammo allowed before they would allow the venue to continue having gun shows.
 
In over 30 years of going to gun shows I have been in two where there were negligent discharges of firearms.

First one was at the Light Guard Armory gun show in Detroit Michigan in about 1979. Someone shot down a ceiling tile with what I believe was a long gun (shotgun). To this day I remember that ceiling tile just floating down to the ground.

The second one occurred at a gun show in Georgia within the last 5 years. Someone put a round into a wall with a handgun.

Not sure what happened with either of the individuals involved in the ND. At the Georgia show I do remember police officers converging on the table where it happened and having a serious talk with the guy looking stupid with the pistol in his hand.

Rob
 
*sigh*

how many lables do we need to add?
unxepected, accidental, negligent, inappropriate, mechanical, why not just add sewage to the list of discharges.
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English is a descriptive language that allows the speaker to describe anything they want, in any way that they want. Its the nature of the beast my friend.

I'm sure this problem would be curved if we all went back to speaking in "pops" and "clicks", but i suspect it wouldn't be sufficient for todays fast-paced world.

On a side note, i suspect all of these claims of discharges are FAKE. Many of the guns in these stories are GLOCKS! We all know that Glock = perfection. I suspect that these fables are being planted by the 1911 fanboys.

LOL
 
Last year in Houston at a GRB gun show, a patron pulled out his ccw to check the fit on a new holster, and had an ad. I was there. There is a thread here on it. I guess the man felt that the rules did not apply to him about unloading his ccw.

It's funny how so many people think that they are the exception, and the rest of us should follow the rules.
 
It happened at the huge Birmingham AL show about a dozen years ago. Same story, a dealers CCW.

I know a guy who had a AD in the army and got away with it. Not to commend unsafe rifle handeling, but I will commend fast thinking. Upon stupidly discharging his rifle into the ground he immediatly fired two more and yelled SNAKE SNAKE!
He got away with it!
 
Here's my post about my Memorial Day gun show:

I arrived 5 minutes late Memorial day for my shift at the VCDL table at the Harrisonburg Gun Show at Rockingham fairgrounds. I apologized to Mike Piper and rolled around back of the table and settled in. Mike and I said our "Hello's" and "How are ya's" and began our shift. It had been slow as gun shows go but I could see that several items and a membership or two had been sold. Some of the dealers had left but a good number were left all the same. We were positioned right next to the right side entrance to the rear section of the building near Trader Jerry's and had a fairly good view of the back area which is always good for "people watching." We hadn't been there much more than an hour when it happened... Off to our left, there was a loud "POP!" and all froze in place and looked toward that awful noise. I said "Aw ****" and a few seconds after, someone across the build hollered "anyone hurt?" No one hollered out and a few "I'm OK's" were heard. I voiced that I thought I heard "something" in the overhead and the fellow selling the leather belts and holsters at the far wall said he had "felt" something fall on him when it happened. By this time, the police there had gathered around the source of the noise as had the shows promoter and Jerry from "Trader Jerry's" was there as well. From where I was sitting, I could see Jerry examining the cloth cover of a dealer's table and pointing at something. It turned out that two Licensed dealers had had a transaction for a 9mm SIG between themselves and, though they dropped the magazine, BOTH of them failed to PROPERLY check the chamber. One of them let the slide slam home, pointed the weapon at the floor and pulled the trigger. It was then that I heard "It," that horrifying sound of a Negligent Discharge at a gun show. I am 51 and have been to MANY gun shows in my life and hadn't ever been around a negligent discharge in such a dangerous place as in a building full of people with a concrete floor. The odds were against me and I shouldn't be surprised that it caught up with me and happened in my presence. God willing, this will never happen to ANYONE again. The fact that no one was injured is a miracle. The floor carries a scar that the people who were there, the promoter and owners of the property will always cringe at whenever they see it. Both dealers were immediately shown the door. I don't know their names, if they will be allowed back or if any charges were filed. They are darned lucky that they, and everyone else, walked out of there unscathed today.
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