The case for LESS ammo capacity (revolver) in a handgun.

If they run off with mine, it will be cause it's empty and I gave them the contents thereof.

And if I'm deceased, well I really don't care what happens to my gun. I mean it's a Glock. Whopee.

Sigh.

In the end, it reallly doesn't matter what platform you are carrying, assuming it actually works of course. What matters most is your attitude, will to survive, instincts, training etc etc. And most importantly, IMO, you situational awareness. Software, not hardware. Whatever you choose to carry, be as proficient as you are able with your chosen implement and stay alert. If you are paying attention, you might even be able to avoid said 3-4 punks in the first place, or at least deter them.

If not, well, I doubt the type of gun you are carrying will determine the outcome. That will be up to you. A person armed with an 1873 SAA who is well prepared and is ready to fight to live will likely fare much better than another armed with a wondernine that has only put 50 rounds through the gun in the last 3 years.

I mainly carry S&W revolvers because I draw and shoot them better than any other platform I've tried. I know their limitations, but I also know that in my hands a Glock or XD is even more limited because I'm not going to be nearly as accurate or quick on the draw with them. I do like carrying my 1911, in fact I'm carrying it right now. But I feel even more confident when I'm packing my trusty S&W Model 15.

Carry whatever gives you confidence, cuz you'll probably need that confidence if it really does hit the fan.

Those are my thoughts, probably worth exactly what you paid for them.

If I really expected to find myself in the position that aptly-self-named freakshow10mm described, I would not want his gun. 10mm in a 1911 has costs: capacity and rapid-fire accuracy.

I'd take a gun that's quicker on followthrough, and easier to keep on target, in rapid fire -- and one that holds more rounds. A 19+1 round 9mm would be a far better choice. In each hand, with two more in holsters.

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Actually, I was thinking of a bayonet-equipped AR carbine myself .

I'll take my chances with the higher capacity weapon.

"Thoughts?"

I have never yet heard a valid argument for having less ammunition available for immediate use with the exception of being on fire or while drowning. This thread included.

That not to say that high capacity is a must, but to purposely limit capacity? No thanks.

Hoping to fire your last round just as the thugs descend on you seems like a bad way to choose which gun to carry.

Here's a better recipe:

Any gun is better than no gun.

A lot of rounds are better than just a few rounds

A lightweight gun is better than heavy gun.

Find your personal compromise between these criteria, choose the firearm you're comfortable with, carry it with a warm fuzzy feeling of security.

And try to stay out of neighborhoods frequented by gangs of club wielding thugs.

Why not carry an empty gun and rule out all chance of being shot with it?

He concluded that a single stack auto with 7-10 rounds was a worthwhile improvement over a revolver with 5 or 6.

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Just a thought, maybe this is because most 7-10 round single stacks are 1911s. In my experience most of the people who carry 1911's are a little more into firearms/practice than those that carry snubbies or glocks. I don't know, it's just a guess.

Why not carry an empty gun and rule out all chance of being shot with it?

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How about a mag disconnect? I really don't think that they are a bad idea... despite what most here believe.

"Shootin' on the move." That's all.

I would like to hear from just one person here other than a LEO or military who have been attacked on the street by 4 or more bad guys with contact weapons, just one person... If you find yourself in that situation you weren't paying attention to what was going on around you in the least. I know the words "situational awareness" get overused but really now, you walked into 4+ bad guys??? For that alone you should get a smack!

Again with the people expecting badguys to bug out when confronted by loud noises.

Seriously people. If these guys are out to kill you, even killing one of them might not send them running. It might even egg them on.

Fight or flight works for badguys who have their OODA loop disrupted as well. While they might run away, they might also fight back. They are now trying to defend themselves from YOU.

In almost every thred someone says "The badguys will run away". That's assuming a LOT.

If I've emptied my 13 shot 9mm, well that's why I carry contact weapons as well.

With what you are saying, would you not be better served to carry a gun with just one round in it that you know will blow up when shot? That way when the bad guy takes it from you he gets his hand blown off. Doesn't make much since does it? You do what you wish, me, I'll carry enough fire power to get me through another day. By the way I do sometimes carry just a J frame but, most other times I use that for a back-up to a .45.

I carry a J-Frame 90% of the time and will continue to do so. Heck, I don't even carry a reload most of the time. If I need more than 5, well I guess I'm going down.

I would like to hear from just one person here other than a LEO or military who have been attacked on the street by 4 or more bad guys with contact weapons, just one person...

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I guess I was ALMOST that one person !!!! Was fishing for salmon off a govt. pier in Waukegan , about 20 min. north of Chicago ------ left my house a bit after midnight and got to the pier & set up around 1:00AM ---- this was a Friday night and there is usually at least 4-8 other fisherman there at night. BTW -- the pier/ lighthouse is between 1/4 and 1/2 mile from shore.

As luck would have it , I was the ONLY person there , well untill about 2:30 AM ---- I heard voices but as there are NO Lights --- I couldn't see who was coming out but I knew that there was WAY more then two people. It turned out to be a BUNCH of gangbanger wannabe's --- there were 7 Hispanic males and 4 females.
They come all the way out to the lighthouse , where I'm at , and at first everything was cool. They asked if I was getting fish etc. --- they then went to the other side of pier/breakwall and I could see they started to smoke something { not pot} and were drinking out of paper bags that held bottles.
After maybe 15/20 minutes , they started to get "rowdy" with each other and then they started to throw the glass bottles near where I was on the other side.
After two of the bottles hit within 4 or 5 feet from me -- I said something like " hey , be cool or you will scare off the fish " ---- thats when it started to get tense as they yelled to me " we'll scare you off and your fish MFer etc"
The pier there is maybe 30 feet wide , one part is around 15/20 ft. wide , then a raised "walkway" around 5/6 feet high X 3 ft. wide , and then on the lake side a smaller area about only 3 feet wide.
Then 3 or 4 males come over to the wide side where I'm set up fishing and start with me. First I try to calm them down and reason with them --- that ain't gonna work. So,I jump over to the "skinny side" and back up to a part of the seawall where I know they can't get behind me. Two of the bigger guys jump over and have something in their hands { sticks/clubs } ---- at that time , I pull BOTH of my fillate knifes and tell them that it ain't worth it for us to be killing each other for nothing. Things got even more tense after that --- another 2 or 3 guys jump over to my side and start to try to get me inbetween them.
There are two , at least , almost in arms length away and I'm thinking " OH SHxx" ---- one of the girls starts yelling at her "mate" to leave me alone etc. ---- another girl starts yelling at her "homies" to go to their car and get a gun !!!
I then start to yell " go get your F-ing gun cause I already got mine " -- at this time the "leader" calls his guys back and tells them it's time to leave !!!! I was NEVER so happy to hear words like that in my life.

They leave and I'm on full alert untill the sun starts to come up --- I get back to my car and leave.

MORAL of the story ---- you can have ALL the Awareness in the World and STILL FIND yourself in danger.

Now , I ALWAYS take a handgun and my cell phone out there with me. I also make it a point to have two hundred dollars for bail if need be. It is a shame I MAYBE breaking the law -- BUT , better to be tried by 12 then buried by 6 !!!

When i was a young man .My dad told me if there is more than one threat .SHOOT THE FIRST ONE .THEN RUN RUN RUN.

Disagree -- just because.

I recall an episode involving an off-duty policewoman who found herself in the middle of a "stop and rob" episode, involving three assailants with blunt instruments. She identified herself, drew her Airweight snubby and ordered them to the floor. They charged her. As she was trained, she put two shots into the first one, two in the second and the remaining round in the third. The first two were out of it, but the third one -- even though seriously wounded -- just about killed her.

Against multiple assailants, I want an Uzi. So I guess I fall into the "more rounds is better" group.

Cordially, Jack