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Tell me David E, why you dislike the Fobus brand of holsters. Is there a specific feature or item that you find fault with. Or are you just into bashing the brand?

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No, I'm not "just into bashing the brand." Fobus makes other non-holster gear that's perfectly fine.

I've not had the chance to inspect a current non-riveted FOBUS, so my comments may apply only to the riveted style. (altho some probably transfer over to the new design, I don't know yet)

First of all, for most people, it carries the gun with a "butt in, muzzle out" attitude. This means that to draw the gun normally, the shooter's hand is off-center to start with. Then, they pull it straight up, further engaging the triggerguard indent, further hindering a smooth draw. Once the holster finally gives up the gun, the shooter finds that the gun is pointed to the right (right hand shooter) because of the off-center grip the holster mandates.

To get around that, the shooter begins to employ what I've dubbed the "Leaning Tower of Pisa" draw. A right handed shooter leans to the left, straightening out his right side so he can grip the gun properly. If he maintains the lean during the draw (most do) the triggerguard indent doesn't hinder the draw near as much, but it's still not a smooth draw. Once out, the shooter doesn't fire until he straightens up his body.

Then, upon reholstering, he runs the risk of dismantling his holster, as happened at a match this past weekend, much to the delight of everyone else. The shooter was none too happy. He was able to finish the match after duct taping his "holster" back together.

I took one in on trade for a 1911. I put my Govt model into it and couldn't get it out. The front sight was catching severely on the bottom of the holster. A 4" version fit adequately and I could get it out with less trouble.

The paddle has separated from the holster countless times.

The "speed cut" doesn't allow the gun muzzle to fit thru it, so it's not really a speed cut. (Uncle Mike's kydex holsters for the 1911 do the same thing)

The FOBUS does not allow for a smooth draw and you must fight for the gun each and every time.

Constantly fighting ones own equipment does not permit one to readily improve, much less excell.

I frequently carry my bt380 in a Houston paddle holster similar to this one. No complaints.

I use a Fobus for Range time only with my Sigma 40ve. I have had no issues with it.

I use a Fobus for Range time only with my Sigma 40ve. I have had no issues with it.

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How fast is your draw to first shot with it?

Lets make it an IPSC or IDPA target at 5 yds, hands at sides. Reacting to a random start signal, draw and fire and HIT the target, "C" zone or better to score.

(must use a shot timer, not a stop watch or second hand)

How fast is your draw to first shot with it?

Lets make it an IPSC or IDPA target at 5 yds, hands at sides. Reacting to a random start signal, draw and fire and HIT the target, "C" zone or better to score.

(must use a shot timer, not a stop watch or second hand)

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He just said he's had no issues with it. He didn't say it was fast, and he didn't come off like he was trying to prove anything. He just said he's had no issues with it.

Besides, do you really expect anyone to follow your instructions on how to time a shot just to prove a point to some guy on the internet?

It depends what he's using the holster for. If he's only using it for "range use" as he indicated, then he probably wouldn't have any "issues" with a burlap sack, either. Which is perfectly fine with me.

If, on the other hand, he's using it while seeking to enhance his defensive handgunning skills, a poorly designed or executed holster will hinder his progress significantly.

Besides, do you really expect anyone to follow your instructions on how to time a shot just to prove a point to some guy on the internet?

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No, I was hoping he'd be curious enough to found out for himself how fast his first shot was.

Sadly, I've found that most people prefer to simply believe they are good without ever bothering to find out it's true.

SHusky57,
though you mentioned that the holster would be for competition, and retention doesn't really play a role there, you did mention stresses.

I'm not sure of the brand of paddle holster in this video, but it does show how easily some plastics snap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDeKtgkZKmQ

That holster in the video is a FOBUS !!!

(and it ain't kydex !)

I bet the wearer didn't have any "issues" with it just prior to that video being shot, either.

+1 on the High Noon Holsters.
And Fist Inc is another good source of well-made, custom-built holsters.