P95Carry
Moderator Emeritus
Pistol ammo is both low on the power range and generally not over long .... all helps to keep the gun's size, weight and length down.... so more compact, and more concealable etc. ''What we are used to''.
But .. and ignore here the ''specialist'' hand rifles .. Contender etc ..... now we have the short magnum rounds coming along .... does it seem at all possible we might see a new handgun round based more on these proportions? Even if downsized and down-powered some.
If ya like .... a CZ-52/Sig .357 ....... but way more potent?! Imagine the 7.62 x 25 (0.390 dia case) .. but fatter by, what? ..... say 30% ... to give something like close to 0.5".... not so much ''fatter'' than the .45 acp. never been much into WildCat loads and always the prob .. what gun to use for development.
OK, chamber strength must go up ... = weight. Recoil too will rise obviously, tho extra weight helps that ... but as we keep discussing ... the handgun is only a ''just enough'', if that, when compared to the usefulness of a rifle cal and power. It is ''any port in a storm''.
So ... a 30 cal bullet (say - and JHP) ... perhaps around 100 grain .... in front of a CZ-52 case dia of +30% .... could see us pushing out that said bullet at, what? Over 2,000 I'd reckon.
Would this be unmanagable for a large frame gun, and shooter .. true - on heavier side but ... maybe not much more than a std 1911? It sure as hell would seem like a potential ''stopper'' to me!!
Or have I just been very unobservant and thick ... and this already exists!!
Anyways ... just pondering, as ever!
But .. and ignore here the ''specialist'' hand rifles .. Contender etc ..... now we have the short magnum rounds coming along .... does it seem at all possible we might see a new handgun round based more on these proportions? Even if downsized and down-powered some.
If ya like .... a CZ-52/Sig .357 ....... but way more potent?! Imagine the 7.62 x 25 (0.390 dia case) .. but fatter by, what? ..... say 30% ... to give something like close to 0.5".... not so much ''fatter'' than the .45 acp. never been much into WildCat loads and always the prob .. what gun to use for development.
OK, chamber strength must go up ... = weight. Recoil too will rise obviously, tho extra weight helps that ... but as we keep discussing ... the handgun is only a ''just enough'', if that, when compared to the usefulness of a rifle cal and power. It is ''any port in a storm''.
So ... a 30 cal bullet (say - and JHP) ... perhaps around 100 grain .... in front of a CZ-52 case dia of +30% .... could see us pushing out that said bullet at, what? Over 2,000 I'd reckon.
Would this be unmanagable for a large frame gun, and shooter .. true - on heavier side but ... maybe not much more than a std 1911? It sure as hell would seem like a potential ''stopper'' to me!!
Or have I just been very unobservant and thick ... and this already exists!!
Anyways ... just pondering, as ever!