browning bps tactical

A Browning BPS priced cheaper than the equivalent Mossberg sounds like a heck of a deal to me.

I put the BPS at par with the Remington 870 any day and above the Mossberg every day. My opinion of course and I own both.

Although Ive never owned one, by reputation alone, it is a good weapon.

However, Ive never considered these BPS guns the "bees knees" of pump shotguns. Yes, I have fired them and do like them (very smooth). But, for my needs, I prefer the Mossberg 590A1. Frankly, I just cant get used to not having a side ejection/feed port (as per the Browning).

Now, something to seriously keep in mind, like my Benelli SuperNova Tactical, although the BPS is a sweet gun when compared to most, the marketshare/aftermarket/parts availability is slim. This may not seem like much at first, but it can become a factor later on down the road.

Buying a quality gun and enjoying it is one thing (and certainly important). But, what happens after that is at least 30-40% of the equation and therefore, worth considering.

How is maintenance/field strip on a BPS? I am considering a HD shotgun but I hear every once in a blue moon the BPS needs to be taken to a gunsmith for detail cleaning in all those nooks and crannies. Input?

Part of me likes the way it looks: clean and simple without that side ejection port, but another part of me doesn't want those empties at my feet when im preoccupied with eyes on target. Is this even an issue ?(directed at those that own the BPS)

I fondled the mossberg 500 and the BPS at the store, and the BPS seemed heavier. Is there a felt difference in recoil between the two?

Wonder if you could send the barrel to Mike Orlen or someone else and have it threaded for chokes and use it as a multipurpose gun?

It would be nice if it came with the invector plus as an option. Then I could share chokes with the other BPS.

How is maintenance/field strip on a BPS?

Removing the barrel is about the extent of it, according to the factory. I'd rather have an 870 for a 'serious' gun- and I do have a BPS Upland, the 22" VR Invector Plus-choked English-stocked version ( http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=011B&cat_id=012&type_id=216 ). I have no excuses, I'm a sucker for a short barreled Cinderella shotgun 8^). The BPS said "Take me home" and I did.

For a pure "house gun" the BPS will do just fine. If it might have to be taken outside, and dragged through the mud and the blood and the beer, though- I'll take an easily field-strippable and maintainable 870 for that sort of work.

YMMV of course.

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The 12 and 20 gauge BPS models made after the early 90s were equipped with the invector plus choke tubes.

I am assuming that the model on sale is the "high capacity" model. Which has a fixed cylinder choke, 20" plain barrel, and composite stock. MSRP is $424. The BPS is a good gun and $330 is a good price. I'd take it over the Mossberg or the 870 Express any day. Get help the first time you take it apart- it's not as easy as the 870, but if you are mechanically inclined, you should be able to do it.

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BPS is the nicest pump i ever shoulderd and i think ive tried them all. Dennis

I own a BPS HC. It's a fine shotgun, but as was noted, it isn't really what I would call a field gun. Think of it more along the lines of a HD shotgun for someone who otherwise collects old Purdeys.

browning are high end but do they compete with mossbergs and remingtons the guns that have the best reputation over the last 50 years

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The Browning BPS High Capacity, no longer offered, makes just about any Mossberg look like cheap junk.

Sorry, but that's the way I see it. There is no comparison. Mossberg has not always had a good reputation. One could argue that they are still lacking.

The Browning BPS High Capacity, no longer offered, makes just about any Mossberg look like cheap junk.

Sorry, but that's the way I see it. There is no comparison. Mossberg has not always had a good reputation. One could argue that they are still lacking.

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Brownings may be nice (and they are) but then again, so are Benellis (in my opinion, just as good as any Browning Ive handled...Benellis "space age" look aside).

To the point- It always frustrates me when people seem to pass the Mossberg off as "budget," "low end' or as compared to other SG's...."junk." This is ridiculous. My 590 is just as capable, reliable and well built as anything else I have had the pleasure of shooting. Am I the only individual "lucky" enough to own a Mossberg fitting this criteria? I doubt it.

Yes, Mossbergs have their flaws...along with any other weapon I can name (even those costing 2 to 3 times as much). Besides, many "bad experiences" Ive heard of relating to Mossberg (500/590) were easily cured by applying simple, inexpensive fixes.

Give Mossberg a break and give them their just due.

I use a BPS 10 ga. these last 10 years for Waterfowling (salt and brackish) and turkey in the rain. I keep it gooped up and there are not too many SMALL nooks and crannies in the 10ga version!It is the synthetic matte finish and stocked version with a 30" barrel. It is still good as newwith some non rusting scrapes. Never had a malf!

My post was in response to the statement that Browning is high end but do not compete with Mossberg or Remington which is completely laughable in my opinion.

I know, firsthand, they seem to have alot of problems getting the front sight post straight on the Mossberg 930SPX shotguns.
I have a half dozen IAC 982s and CDD Tacticals in stock that all have front sight posts and they are on straight.

Mossberg is a harder sell due to their reputation in the past. I certainly won't and probably couldn't sell shotguns with canted front sight posts.

I own a Browning BPS High Capacity, it is one of the smoothest, most reliable shotguns I have owned. The function and finish is incredible and it is rock solid.
I don't and won't personally own any Mossbergs.

If Mossberg floats your boat then that's great, they make good guns and you should enjoy yours.

While I don't own one, I have handled a few and am impressed. My only real problem with them, as someone who has run an 870 and Browning A-5 for many years, is the difference in the manual of arms and safety location. If I run an 870 dry, I can dump one in the side while maintaining a firing grip, run the pump forward and be ready to go. With the BPS, I would need to turn the gun completely over. Having said that, I would LOVE a high-capacity, 20inch, tactical BPS in TEN GAUGE!!! Why? WHY NOT?!?

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the bps has alot tighter tolerances than most shotguns, thats why they are harder to disasemble and put back togeather. ive heard people joke that you need a shoehorn to get one reasembled lol. btw about the only real life problem ive heard with the mossberg is that the plastic safety (in the right spot though ) will pop off at the worst time. browning safety is metal and will never have that problem.

Excellent choice

I have shot one owned by a friend at last years annual local Turkey shoot and it is soooo smooooth. I thought about getting one but I have 3 Ithacas and do not need it. That said, the price that Gander Mt is asking is a excellent price on a gun that in my opinion is a notch above the Remington and the Mossberg. I received that Flyer in the mail and was tempted . Buy it.

Sporting gun not tactical

The gun I shot was the hunting gun not the tactical but I like the action very much.

I owned a BPS youth model 20 ga with a 22" barrel & screw in chokes, I killed more doves with that gun than any other gun I've ever owned. I traded it in on a Bennelli Montifelltro 20 ga. which I really like, but I've never been able to shoot it as well as the BPS. I also shot lots of sporting clays with the BPS, never had a hangup and was as slick as glass. I don't know anything about the tactcool version, but if it is anywhere close to the one I own, I'd jump own it in a heart beat!

Jimmy K