Which would you rather have, RIA 1911 or Ruger P345?

Which would you rather have?


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I picked the 1911

When I received the new P345, I was surprised at the compact size and light weight of the weapon. It is about the same size and bulk of a Commander-sized 1911, and at 29.4 ounces with an empty magazine, the Ruger weighs a bit less than a new Smith & Wesson Scandium lightweight 1911 that I had handy for comparison.

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-P345.htm

1. I would never buy a Ruger because I am very politically aware and I do not support companies that do not support my rights.

2. based on the above review you would be happy with either.

If you get a chance, you should shoot both and if you can afford it buy both. If you need something lighter weight than a LW commander go with the Ruger, but be advised it is not a compact.

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and the RIA is upgradeable.

PS. ETA a few notes on whby you should never buy a Ruger;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_B._Ruger
http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/papabill.html
 
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1. I would never buy a Ruger because I am very politically aware and I do not support companies that do not support my rights.

Old news, bub... :rolleyes:
 
I have both. Both are excellent firearms. I voted for RIA because there is just something about the 1911 that appeals to me. The P345 is polymer and is lighter to carry. It goes bang every time (I know that there is to be no dry firing with the magazine out so I simply refrain from dry firing at any time). There are times when the P345 seems to be more comfortable to carry and I carry it then. For me, it seems to conceal better with hot weather clothes, Maybe that is just me. They are both accurate shooters. I like them both and I think they each have a use.
 
M302Sniper said:
1. I would never buy a Ruger because I am very politically aware and I do not support companies that do not support my rights.

Mxracer239y said:
I understand the mindset, but since those statements (literally 20 years ago), Bill Ruger has passed, and Sturm, Ruger & Co. was placed on the NYSE as a publicly traded company. To penalize the current day corporation for the 20 year old statements of a former CEO is misguided energy, in my opinion. Ruger sells full capacity magazines to civilians. Period.

Oh, come on, Mxracer239y... Your post wasn't bad at all. I read it in the email notification. A bit wordy, but I said basically the same thing in 3 words. ;)
 
Wow.

Slow down. I recommended the Ruger, I thought it would be a good pistol if the OP liked shooting it and I posted a link to a very positive review from a competent writer.

So then you proceed to jump on me because I have a little memory of an unhappy event and stated my opinion. You guys need to get off the computer and spend some time outside. Shooting maybe. :cool:

To penalize the current day corporation for the 20 year old statements of a former CEO is misguided energy, in my opinion. Ruger sells full capacity magazines to civilians. Period.

That statement wasn't un-high road at all. I also think that my energy is very well spent, educating new shooters and taking them shooting. As well as reminding friends and enemies why and how we got to here.

Besides the brand new very well reviewed LCR has an internal lock. So we haven't gotten that far in 20 years now, have we. :evil:

so it is not
Old news, bub..
it is relevant and important.
 
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Personally the only Ruger I like is the MARK series 22lr. Unless you already have a 1911 or have a really nice one and this will be a hard shot one then you may want the Ruger. Have you shot this model before?
 
If it was me? I've never been impressed with any Ruger's trigger (usually gritty and longer than they need to be), and their semi-autos have always struck me as "cheap" in the hand.

RIA, on the other hand, seems to produce something that's a great deal for the price, plus it's a 1911, so you can adjust whatever you want.
 
Thank you for your outstanding contribution to the conversation. How did the internet ever survive without even a gram of your profound wisdom? Surely if we were in the matrix, you would be the one, without question allow me to prostate myself before your greatness and say "I apologize" for having a valid opinion. :rolleyes:
 
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I wonder if the choice between the guns would change if you could not change them from factory configuration? (save for an action job for the Ruger, and a reliability job for the RIA)

Someone claiming to be "politically aware" then citing 20 yr old outdated info isn't very politically aware.
 
Someone claiming to be "politically aware" then citing 20 yr old outdated info isn't very politically aware.

read the whole post. I said it was still relevant.

Thank You.

For those of you who have no idea how we got to where we are on the RKBA, concealed carry and the death of the AWB as well as the growth of the NRA to the largest and most successful civil rights organization in the US, here is some recommended reading;
http://www.thegunrightswar.com/grw/
 
David E said:
Someone claiming to be "politically aware" then citing 20 yr old outdated info isn't very politically aware.

And...that about sums it up. Good one, Dave! Guess M203 doesn't like Fords, either, because their cars, like the Model T were too slow so it MUST still be true today. :p
 
It would depend on what your uses for the firearm would be.

If you plan on upgrades and such, RIA.

If you plan on a firearm for DC and abuse and lack of care the Ruger.

The Ruger comes with a rail, The RIA has common replacement parts all over the place.

The Ruger is USA, The RIA is not.

The Ruger is a DA to SA, The RIA is a SA.

My Ruger has NEVER failed me, My RIA needed fixing right out of the box, it has never failed since.
 
I voted for the Ruger P345.

I already have a 1911, a Colt Combat Elite.

In my small pistol collection the 1911 is the most slim and trim pistol I own. For my next pistol I'd like to have something that is lighter and handier which would be the P345.
 
Having owned a RIA I would prefer that in any caliber. Ruger is ok but RIA Gi will need some parts unless you like GI sights.
 
Thank you for your outstanding contribution to the conversation. How did the internet ever survive without even a gram of your profound wisdom? Surely if we were in the matrix, you would be the one, without question allow me to prostate myself before your greatness and say "I apologize" for having a valid opinion.

Does it hurt when you do that? Just wondering.:scrutiny:


I voted for the RIA, I have two - a .45 and a .38 Super - not a bit of trouble with either. I have a friend that owns a Ruger P345 and I've found it to be very uncomfortable in my hand and it has a crummy trigger. Plus, it is not a particularly good looking gun.
 
Last I heard, Bill Ruger is no longer associated with the company.

Or alive, for that matter. Since July 2002.

Ruger sells their 30-round magazines to the public. What more do you want, a meaningless name-change?

Let's do a thought experiment: Suppose that Ruger was led by and staffed with no one but clones (and I mean that literally) of M203Sniper, who shared all of his feelings on gun control and behaved accordingly. Given M203Sniper's criterion for evaluating the company (whether or not Bill Ruger came out against "assault weapons" many moons ago, and seemingly nothing else), he would still not buy Ruger products.
 
i have owned a 1911 (not a ria but i have shot many of them and thier varients.), and i have owned a p345. though the p345 had major feeding issues, and it had to be sent back to the factory to be fixed, it was still the least expensive and the most accurate handgun that i have ever owned its accuracy was crazy, and i can only imagine what it would be in the hands of someone that was good.

really i wouldn't mind having either one of them as long as they were reliable. i would probally choose the 1911 though.
 
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