Is this legal?

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Ok.

So I have a DE .44 on the way with the standard black finish. (The only one currently CA legal. :cuss: :rolleyes: )

The other finishes are not currently on the approved list, though they used to be.

Magnum Research offers refinishing.

Let's say that at some point I decide I do want a different finish (though I actually do prefer the black) but let's say that at some point I decide I want a new finish.

Would it be legal for me to get the gun refinished?


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It is absolutely legal. All that the law states is that for a new production pistol to be sold from a dealer it must have gone through the "drop test." The reason you do not see any chrome or nickel plated Desert Eagles is because Magnum Research does not see the point in paying for all the variations of their pistols to be dropped tested. Also keep in mind if you really want that .50AE it is perfectly legal to buy the slide and the barrel that would convert your .44 magnum to .50AE. If you have the money its supposed to be just a mater of replacing a few drop-in parts, depending on the model.
 
Thanks guys. I'm surprised; I was pondering this today and thought perhaps it wouldn't be legal for the same reason it isn't legal for me to modify any other weapon like putting an uber-lethal folding stock on a shotgun or something. :rolleyes:


Also keep in mind if you really want that .50AE it is perfectly legal to buy the slide and the barrel that would convert your .44 magnum to .50AE. If you have the money its supposed to be just a mater of replacing a few drop-in parts, depending on the model.

Thanks, I know. On the MK XIX Desert Eagles, all one has to do to convert it from .44 to .50 or vice versa is to change the barrel and magazine. In order to change it to .357, you must also change the bolt because the .357 case is so much smaller than the .44 and .50.


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Gah.

it's only a hundred dollar fee per variation to list on the approved list, once five units have been drop tested. Every single model variation doesn't have to be drop tested.
 
well as soon as it can become a rumor that refinishing allows a weapon to be 'easily fired from the hip to spray fire a hose of bullets at ultra-deadly speed' you can bet your rear its gonna be illegal.
 
Well spiff, that's rather moot since the DE in .50 can, as we all know, shoot satellites out of orbit as well as down passenger airliners.
 
Good luck in your quest for shineyness...

Indeed, doc. It doesnt matter if it is .50AE, .50BMG, or .50-16in_sabot, it will shoot down a satelite.:D ;) :rolleyes:

I always wanted to have a garden hose that shot a never-ending stream of bullets. It would be really cool, as I could sell tickets to shoot it.:D
 
And here I thought that anti-gun bigots only hated black people...er...guns.

I guess its, um, good? that they're expanding their horizons to other finishes? :rolleyes: :banghead: :cuss:
 

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CA guys, check me if I am wrong, but I understood that if the owner had the gun refinished under those circumstances, no dealer would take it in trade because he could not sell it. Nor will dealers take in any guns that were legal when sold, but the maker did not reapply to get listed each year, so those guns can't be sold either. Sounds insane, but then we are dealing with an insane governor and government. (Hopefully now passed, but zero chance that the laws will be repealed; nuts don't listen to reason, which is why they are nuts.)

Jim
 
Jim:

You may have a point.

Frankly, I'm not sure that refinishing the gun is legal.

However, it IS legal for me to buy a .50 DE of any finish provided it is from another individual in CA.

Go figure....
 
Well if refinishing a gun isnt legal. Whats next we have to have CA approved Motor Vehicles that pass the drop test.........:scrutiny:
 
Jim that is actually not true. It is perfectly legal for a dealer to sell a gun that is not on the approved list. What they cannot do is have a distributor bring a gun not on the approved list into the state for sale. A private individual can bring such a weapon into the state and then sell the gun to a dealer for resale or as a consignment sale. As for refinishing the gun I have never encountered any laws concerning this. The reason that each model of the Desert Eagle that has a different finish needs to be drop tested is because they are technically different products and have different product codes. Take for example the Springfield Armory Mil Spec 1911. The parkerized version is product number PB9108L, but the stainless one is product number PB9151L. Its the same gun essentially but they are listed as separate pistols. Now if this logic holds true and you buy a parkerized Springfield 1911 and your refinish it, the gun technically still has the same product code that it had when you bought it. Thus it would be legal. Of course I could be wrong but like I said, I have never heard any law against refinishing a gun. It is truly a silly law that was not well written.
 
Is anyone else completely flabbergasted that it is even questioned whether refinishing of a gun is legal? I had no idea it was this bad. :barf:
 
The reason that each model of the Desert Eagle that has a different finish needs to be drop tested is because they are technically different products and have different product codes.

they don't need to be drop tested. they need to have someone pay the filing fee. if the safety mechanism is changed between models in any way (which includes changing frame material) THEN it has to be drop tested.
 
Completely legal to paint your gun any color you want, it's your property.
If you want a gun that's not on the "list", you just have to find one already in Calif. private party or a dealer who had one before it was off the list.
If you follow the list for any length of time, you'll see modrls get dropped and re-instated all the time. It's date driven, model XXXX is good from date A to date B; then it has to be re-applied for by the manufacturer. So, it's possible to look at the DOJ list and the gun you want isn't approved; then you find it on someone's shelf-no biggie, as it'll be on the list again in no time. The big guys, S & W, Springfield, Ruger, all have many models ok'd for Calif. list and they are being added and deleted all the time. It is stupid, but that's burocrats for ya.:rolleyes:
 
Is anyone else completely flabbergasted that it is even questioned whether refinishing of a gun is legal? I had no idea it was this bad.

I guess they don't want us to know that the .50 caliber bullet isn't really what kills people; it's that nickel finish.

:rolleyes:
 
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