Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you

just seems like they would order something DA only instead of ruining a perfectly good SA stage on the hammer.

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It's my understanding that there weren't many (if any) DAO handguns when they started the practice, and they just went to autos by the time there were enough to get good prices on.

A dealer tried to tell me that .38 Special is a higher-velocity round than 9mm--just look at the case capacity!

Heard one tell someone else that a 20 gauge with slugs is a better choice for HD than a 12gauge with 00 shot--it kicked less, and the slugs had too much surface area to penetrate the walls.

Heard one tell someone else that a 20 gauge with slugs is a better choice for HD than a 12gauge with 00 shot--it kicked less, and the slugs had too much surface area to penetrate the walls.

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Lol. If that's the case I'm gonna pony up some cash and get myself a 155mm howitzer from Copper mountain. If a 20ga slug is to big to penetrate walls, a 155mm shell must be better right?

I don't know about outright lies, but general idiocy yeah. Especially at Cabelas.

I've had the 7.62x51 and 7.62x54 switcheroo pulled on me by one of their salesmen when I couldn't find x54 and was told "awww.... don't worry that will work fine, it's the same thing".

I was told that wolf steel cased ammo was "real easy to reload."

Then there was someone working behind their gun counter that wouldn't sell me 45 colt because I didn't have a concealed carry permit and "no one ever made a rifle in .45 colt so you're buying pistol ammo and you aren't allowed to have one".

I think the best was a mid war russian mosin 91/30 that had no finish left at all, no accessories, a badly cracked stock and a bore that looked like a sewer pipe. All that for the totally reasonable price of $325. Apparently being one of 17 million made that a "really rare find friend". So I went down the road a piece and picked up an arsenal refurbed 91/30 with all the extra goodies for $80.

Fortunately most of the local shops are pretty good. There are still a couple of boneheads working in them, but not too bad.

I was told that wolf steel cased ammo was "real easy to reload."

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I have heard that Wolf is now boxer primed and can be reloaded (though not as much as brass). That said I don't do it myself and probably won't try it.

Was in the shop yesterday and heard this one:

GS guy was showing off one of those foregrips with the quick release button and the tripod pops out at the bottom, you've seen them on ebay and elsewhere. Anyway he's showing them off to a customer with an AR15.

GS Guy: We got a great deal on these from a guy that brought a bunch of them back from Iraq.

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Yeah, right...I'm sure somebody brought a bunch of cheap plastic chinese manufactured tripod/grips from Iraq...

I'm not knocking them because they do work just knocking the story.

eah, right...I'm sure somebody brought a bunch of cheap plastic chinese manufactured tripod/grips from Iraq...

I'm not knocking them because they do work just knocking the story.

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Not to be rude, but a few guys in my unit brought back a ton of these and similar items. Being tacticool isn't limited to civilian life.

I was trying to get some quiet subsonic loads for my 24" .22 bolt action for silent pest removal. I went in to a local sports store and the ammo was behind the counter. I asked for some .22 sub-sonics. He gave me a funny look and looked around for a while. Then he came up with some CCI Velocitors... "Dont have any sub sonic brand but this is the best stuff".

Um thats ok...

Went in to walmart. Old lady half asleep behind the counter. "I need some 22 subsonics" he reaches behind her back without looking and hands me a couple boxes... "Thank you mam".

Not to be rude, but a few guys in my unit brought back a ton of these and similar items. Being tacticool isn't limited to civilian life.

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Ok, I'm interested. How did they get them? From the government? From the Iraqis? Did they then sell them to a local gunshop? If so, why?

Ok, I'm interested. How did they get them? From the government?

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Our Brigade bought the foregrip/bipod things for all the soldiers before deployment to Iraq. I hate mine and just keep it in the duffle bag. I can't remmember if I signed a hand reciept for it or not. Units also leave all kinds of crap behind, and lots of it will be destroyed as we pull out. An unscrupulous enterprising supply sergeant could make out like a bandit if he could get the stuff back stateside off the books. Fraud, waste and abuse is always rampant in a war zone unfortunately.

Ok, I'm interested. How did they get them? From the government? From the Iraqis? Did they then sell them to a local gunshop? If so, why?

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Those things have an NSN number. They aren't cheap crap, yes they are plastic but they hold up well. Some like them, some hate them. All of our SDMs were issued one, I just brought along one of my Harris bipods.

Most of the stuff like that was RFI or bought with unit funds, with little to no accountability. Most of it ended up in the hands of soldiers when units return.

I'll buy it...I know someone that accidently brought some C-4 (from a training area) back home. Of course it was promptly returned because that is go-to-jail time if busted. Same guy received an ACOG that wasn't properly checked out of inventory (also returned), so I can definitely see how things could get missing.

They aren't cheap crap, yes they are plastic but they hold up well.

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Don't get me wrong, I know that they work (I own one as well) but they are cheap...$20-30ish. Perhaps inexpensive is a better word? I just find it highly unlikely that someone would bring "a bunch of them back from Iraq" and sell them to a local gunshop. Much more likely the gun shop ordered a small shipment of them online. Sounds like a gunshop spiel to impress novice customers.

I remember a lot of stuff from the 1st Gulf War that got labeled "Combat Loss" that was unexpectedly found by soldiers when they got home.

http://www.brigadeqm.com/cgi-bin/ta...=Weapon Accessories&backto=/store/level3c.tam

These are what we were issued. Not cheap or inexpensive. I'm not sure how the $10-20 chinese knockoffs compare, but I suspect there some difference.

hmm....I do remember an unsuspecting Captain that signed for 350 life vests that did not exist. He needed them for a Rhine river crossing. I guess those detatched, short timer, buck Sgts should not be assigned to supply Some reallyweird things can happen in the supply chains of the US military.

Overheard today, salesman and a gangster-dressed kid ineptly fondling a Walther P22 with a silencer:
"Soooooo, are these things legal?"
"Yup! Legal to own, legal to shoot, just don't get caught."

Today I was looking for some CCI Mini Mags 22LR's but all they had was Fed bulk pack LRN's. The guy behind the counter said you should never shoot the high vilocity rounds because they start to tumble after about 100 feet. So I asked he him if 38 specials where larger bullets than .357 mags. He looked confused.

I got told the other day that a Remington 870 was a better shotgun than the Mossberg because no matter how many rounds the Rem can hold, whether a tactical model or a pure hunting model, 8 shot or 5, the barrels were all interchangeable because the barrel bands were in the exact same place on all the Remington models. No matter how long the magazine tube was.

At a gun show a few years ago, noticed a FrankenFAL on the table. Between the barrel, upper reciever, and lower reciever it had three different finishes.

The dealer saw me looking at it, picked it up and handed it to me. I looked at the stampings and noted that the lower was made at the Indian arms factory, the upper was a metric design(possibly an Imbel), and it had Enfield parts here and there. Dealer spoke up and said, "Genuine British issue". I sat it back down and walked away, never went near his table again.

'Scandium' S&W revolver is "100% pure Scandium".

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That's just classic. It would cost more than a Wilson 1911 if that was the case... by far

Just for fun I decided to ask the owner of a gun store what he thought of hi point pistols. His response was "I've never had any returns on them."

Well no kidding.. you don't take returns on firearms.

And perhaps my favorite one ever when talking to an employee about Winchester White Box.

"Winchester White box is complete junk. It's basically the ammo they sweep up off the floor at the end of the day, box and sell it."
That's funny.. I've fired about 5000 cartridges and never had a jam, hangfire or misfire.

I also was told "the Savage rifles Walmart sells are cheaper because they're different guns made specially for Walmart by Savage." Guess I'd better stop ordering those 100% reliable insanely accurate Savage rifles from Walmart lol.

"45ACP is a great caliber if you want to shoot somebody and blow a limb off them" was right up there too.

It would cost more than a Wilson 1911 if that was the case... by far

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Slightly...Pure scandium (well 99.9%) can be had for the low, low price of about $400.00USD/oz.

"Winchester White box is complete junk. It's basically the ammo they sweep up off the floor at the end of the day, box and sell it.".

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I sure wish they would sweep up more often...my only problem has been finding some.

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"Its mint! Original finish!" - Stated in the ad for a gun I was interested in. He confirmed it by phone. A reblued gun shows up at my FFL.

This is the best lie I've heard because I fell for it. Got my money back, but not the shipping and handling. A week later the gun is relisted as a mint, original finish gun.

"you need a license to buy sheenguns" (he actually said sheenguns)

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i didn't know you could even get a license to buy cocainegu...I mean charliesheenguns...I mean whatever the hell he was talking about...lol

The .50 BMG is so powerful, even if you miss the shockwave will kill your target.

Best one I heard at a Gander Mtn. "7.62x39 and 7.62x54R is the same thing, they are only measured differently. The Russians (the R in 7.62x54R) measure the length of the entire cartidge length. NATO measures only the case length."

Just... wow.