H&R Protector

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I'm thinking of buying my youngest daughter one of these as a Graduation present. The H&R Protector Home Defense Shotgun. She's Moving away this summer and I want to send her off with some form of protection. She has been shooting a full size Remington 870 12ga for a couple of years. I'm thinking of something more HD oriented with some reduced recoil Buckshot load to keep in her apartment. Any thoughts, pro or con would be appreciated.
 
Perhaps you and her need to read TheCorneredCat.com. SHE really needs to pick out what will work best for HER, whether that is a handgun or long gun or something entirely different. Local laws where she will be going may need to be considered in that decision as well
 
THumbs up on that one. If I didnt have a Remington 870 HD , i d be getting this one. Such a fine product for little money . And no hassle as well to have it shipped from outside dealer. Just go straight to your local Academy , they got it everyday low price.
 
SHE really needs to pick out what will work best for HER, whether that is a handgun or long gun or something entirely different.
Handgun is not an option at her age. A rifle would definitely have overpenetration issues in an apartment. And she is already very shotgun oriented.
Just go straight to your local Academy , they got it everyday low price.
I'm going to stop by and look at one on my way home today. At $190 NIB, if it got stolen, she wouldn't be loosing an heirloom.
 
Pardner protector is a great choice.....but...you may want to re-think the buckshot / apartment thing. Way way to much penetration. IMO
 
you may want to re-think the buckshot / apartment thing. Way way to much penetration. IMO
Even with the reduced recoil loads? I'm not a big advocate of birdshot for HD. Although the only person I've ever known to be killed with a shotgun was killed with birdshot.
 
Handgun is not an option at her age. A rifle would definitely have overpenetration issues in an apartment. And she is already very shotgun oriented.

Not necessarily - under 21 can own, just not purchase themselves - but if she has zero experience then it would not be a good possibility. There are other alternatives as well, from pepper spray, tasers, even a baseball bat. Again though, TheCorneredCat - written by a woman for women would be a good read -for both of you
 
Nothing wrong with the H&R Protector. I wish I'd bought a truckload of them about six years ago when they started showing up in my neck of the woods for $149.
 
I've got one and it is a fantastic value. But for what you describe, a lever action Marlin in a revolver caliber would be a better choice - either a .38/.357 or a .45 Colt. In a way the 12 guage is "too much gun" except she could use "coyote" shot ("T" shot I think) and not be too worried about penetration. In an apartment any miss, even with a .22 could cause you some serious problems. I would even consider a .22 LR or .22 mag rifle for self defense in an apartment.
 
Of all firearms, the handgun is the most difficult to master. If you doubt it, there are numerous stories where law enforcement officers and bad guys have fired many, many rounds at close range and no one got hit.

Since she has experience with the shotgun, it would be a fine choice. There are many choices of ammo beyond just bird shot or 00 buckshot. #4 buckshot may be a good choice. At the end of the day collateral damage is always the responsibility of the shooter, and it can incurred with just about any ammo. A good plan is imperative.

You may have already broached the subject with your daughter, but it is very important that she have the mindset to actually use a weapon against a threat, and be prepared for the fact that the end result could be someone's death.

I applaud your sentiment and if she is prepared, then by all means go ahead, but younger folks often haven't worked through these issues.
 
I applaud your sentiment and if she is prepared, then by all means go ahead, but younger folks often haven't worked through these issues.
Actually she was the one who broached the subject with me. She wanted to know which gun I was going to let her take away to college. She is a deadeye with my AR-15 and the Remington 700 .270 her Grandfather gave her. I bought her a Remington 870 Express Supermag "Turkey Model" with the 23 or 24 inch barrel when she was 15 and thats the gun she is the most familiar with. I agree with your thoughts regarding handguns. They may be the quickest to respond with but they are the toughest to master under stress. I'm considering the H&R Protector because the ergonomics are so much like an 870 and if her apartment gets burgled, she wouldn't be loosing her "first shotgun". As for preparing her mentaly to kill and accept the responsibility of her actions, I think she would be much like the "Cornered Cat" that 1oz spoke of. (interesting website) But she would be a cornered cat with a 12 gauge.
 
Tell her to know whats beyond the target before pulling the trigger. It could mean a life from an innocent bystander and long drawn court case if things go wrong.
 
Tell her to know whats beyond the target before pulling the trigger.
Thats been drilled into her since day one. She's an acomplished hunter with both Deer and Hog and has been around guns all her life. She understands that a gun is the last resort to defense. I also plan to arm her with a Five cell Flashlight, Mace, and my spare .22lr revolver. The apartment is gated and in a nice neighborhood, but you never know.
 
I've made a decision. I'm keeping her with her 870 that she is familiar with. It's broke in, it's her gun, and if something happens to it I'll get her another one. I ordered her an 18.5" Riot Barrel this morning. Then we will get some more trigger time.
 
I have never read such junk. The man made a great decision in the end. I am ashamed to think gun owners can be such idiots.I am surprised none of you nijas suggested a 50 cal browning. Jezz...z.
 
I have never read such junk. The man made a great decision in the end. I am ashamed to think gun owners can be such idiots.I am surprised none of you nijas suggested a 50 cal browning. Jezz...z.

What the hell are you talking about? Who said he made the wrong decision? People were just making recommendations....chill...
 
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