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Maybe not far superior, but I think the pressure point was not a good idea, im not trying to argue, but my gun goes where I aim it, when i get a not so tight group, it's me.
but I've seen a remington 700 that wouldnt hold under an inch at 50 yards. Sometimes you get a lemon.
 
I think the howa is better

Well you certainly are entitled to your opinion!

because it has a better stock

Do tell...please!


and no "pressure point"

Are we to understand the 'pressure point', in the forend tip of a stock, makes for an ill shooting rifle?

so it can be fired for longer before cooling

Oh brother....

and typically a nicer barrel from what i've read.

I'm not following you....you did not say Howa barrels were better than Weatherby's, did you!?!

remember, i did a bunch of research and found the Howa i bought to be better than the model 700's that are commonly offered for under 600 dollars

...and just where did you do this research?

but mom is afraid if i hit someone with the .308 it would dismember somthing, she's a liberal lol

She's right, dismember the folks two miles down the road, after going through the walls of your house!

i like my Nikko Stirling. get over it. it's good.

Now that's the best thing you've said so far!

Just kidding you Ranger....

The Howa is a pretty good rifle, when they are being built well, right now, or should I say, the last two I have shot have preformed as well as some much more expensive rigs.
 
My research was from internet, people, seeing them have shot groups ect. and you forgot to mention i dont use the .308 for HD yet. I dont have any ammo im not concerned about overpenetration with. Until i get frangible, my long shotgun gets the gig.
and Howa produces a fine barrel, but the pressure point thing is just plain dumb.
and my mom thinks the slugs in my shotgun wouldnt destroy someone. lol. she says they look soft.
 
I'll take the Walnut stock of the Vanguard Sporter any day over the rubbery Hogue stock of the Howa. I really disliked the feel of that stock. However, I do like the looks and feel of the Weatherby Vanguard sporter and another one that looks a little like it, the Golden Eagle from Nikko.
 
Howa rifles are available with a number of stock options, just like any other manufacturer. Some suit you and your budget, others many not... that is why there are options.

In general, your base model Japanese firearms are produced to higher standards than the US manufactured counterpart. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=12148

I am also a bit partial to Remmy 700 rifles, and there are MANY nice used examples floating around. Off the shelf, it is hard to beat the 5R for the price.
 
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It might have been mentioned, but if you're really looking to buy on a budget, there's also the Savage-Stevens 200 in .223.

They're like the older Savages. The stock is cheaper, but it's pillar-bedded and free-floated. The barrel and action are Savage. The only thing you really lose is the accutrigger, which may or may not be a deal breaker. They're capable of sub-moa out of the box with decent ammo.

I've got one on the way with a Burris base and rings + a Simmons scope for right at $483. ($317 shipped from buds + FFL)

(though the extra case I spent on bullets, and a neck-sizer die brought me above $500.)
 
YES!

The accu-stock is definately worth the extra $40 !!

The base stock that Savage has is probably fine for general plinking but before you know it, you'll be looking at targets at 100 - 200 yds and wondering why you have those pesky flyers. It could be due to uneven preasure on the forestock while you're shooting. The base stock is so flexible that it's hard NOT to flex it. Then what happens? You buy a stiffer stock for $200 - $250. You could have had it for $40.

Case closed.
 
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