Glock Gen 4 problems?
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DenaliPark
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Sorry, but it's you who is ignorant, PT92's are also made on old Beretta machinery, they are still not Beretta's! I'm a Beretta fanboy, and I can tell you & your "wikipedia" quoted link that Turkey is not Italy....If it doesn't have Beretta stamped into the slide, it's not a Beretta!
DenaliPark
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Whats really irritating is all the silliness like the above....They are not Beretta's, they are not made by Beretta.....That's just a fact!
fanboy - If your name is Beretta; and, you have a daughter that marries a guy named Stoeger, then wouldn't their Kids, your grandchildren, be just as much Berettas as they are Stoegers? Especially when they live in Turkey, in a house that you own, and use furniture from your own mansion? (Do you get it yet?)
DenaliPark
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Doesn't work that way in manufacturing....And my name is DenaliPark..Not "fanboy!"
killchain
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Uh.
Taurus' manufacturing plants were built by Beretta, and were given to Taurus when the Brazilians ousted Beretta from Brazil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_92#Taurus
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fmfdocglock
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Glock Gen4 9mm
I actually just traded in my Gen4 Glock 17.
It had problems right out of the box, even with good quality ammo.
It went back to Glock, came back still screwed up. The letter that came back with it said it met specs.
Then, a few weeks later, they came out with the 0-2 spring.
I got a 0-2 spring from them, better, but it was still screwed up. Even with good quality ammo.
They (Glock) refused to exchange it for a Gen3 model.
I traded it in last week, at a significant loss, for another manufacturers 9mm.
I'll never buy another Glock.
PS: I own a number of sem-autos (including a G30 and G22) in various calibers and have been shooting for 30 yrs. The G17 Gen4 was the only one that was problematic.
I actually just traded in my Gen4 Glock 17.
It had problems right out of the box, even with good quality ammo.
It went back to Glock, came back still screwed up. The letter that came back with it said it met specs.
Then, a few weeks later, they came out with the 0-2 spring.
I got a 0-2 spring from them, better, but it was still screwed up. Even with good quality ammo.
They (Glock) refused to exchange it for a Gen3 model.
I traded it in last week, at a significant loss, for another manufacturers 9mm.
I'll never buy another Glock.
PS: I own a number of sem-autos (including a G30 and G22) in various calibers and have been shooting for 30 yrs. The G17 Gen4 was the only one that was problematic.
sturmgewehr
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Do you know how many parts interchange with the PT92 and the original Beretta 92?
Marshall
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That's a funny name.
jackpinesavages
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No problems for my 2 Gen 4s. They eat everything I've put in em, even re-loads. New pistol shooters should probably stay away from the 4s.
tac94540
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absolutely, had mine about five years now and LOTS of rounds through it. great trigger, reliable, accurate, tough, and i love the grip. great gun
tac94540
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talking about the stoeger that is, wich is owned by benelli. and actually those "cheap" taurus guns that copy beretta have solved some of the problems that the 92 was having, like the barrels wearing out quickly.
FotoTomas
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I just wanted to throw some gasoline on the fire. I have a Glock 17 Gen4 that has been an absolute piece of manure since I first fired it in March this year. I have a little over 1000 rounds of various cheap and expensive brands of ammo downrange and with them all I have about one malfunction every 75 rounds on average.
The 3rd round out of the new gun was a stove pipe. I kept a notebook of the round count and failures. I was shooting Federal 115 ball, Blazer Brass 115 ball, Winchester WB 115 ball, Remington 115 JHP's, Remington 124 grain ball, Remington 124 grain Golden Saber(4 failures in 25 rounds) and some Atlanta Arms and Ammo 147 match stuff.
The first 500 rounds of the cheap 115 ball and the cheap 115 JHP were with the original spring. I recieved a "02" spring from Glock and ran another 500 rounds of the cheap and expensive stuff. It was worse.
Being a Glock fan and armorer as well as a police firearms instructor and an avid competitor in IDPA as well as the Glock Sport Shooting Foundation...I have never had these problems with any of the other Glock pistols (about 30) I have owned since 1998. This particular pistol was an award from a recent GSSF match. I paid nothing for it.
Tomorrow I will be hand carrying it to a regional Glock rep to look at and possibly shoot. He already gave me two new 02 springs to try. We will see.
I love everything about the pistol as far as grip stippling, magazine release, adjustable overlays. Mine just does not work well.
I have a brand new unfired Glock 19 Gen4 as well. I will try it out this week. I hope my new 19 is one of those "It eats everything I feed it with no problems" models that will return my faith to the platform. As for the G17... I hope to get an adapter and put an original Gen3 spring into the pistol to improve its reliability. We will see.
Bottom line... The Gen4 is NOT a guaranteed reliable pistol in my opinion based on my personal experience. You may get lucky BUT I will not reccomend them to people.
The 3rd round out of the new gun was a stove pipe. I kept a notebook of the round count and failures. I was shooting Federal 115 ball, Blazer Brass 115 ball, Winchester WB 115 ball, Remington 115 JHP's, Remington 124 grain ball, Remington 124 grain Golden Saber(4 failures in 25 rounds) and some Atlanta Arms and Ammo 147 match stuff.
The first 500 rounds of the cheap 115 ball and the cheap 115 JHP were with the original spring. I recieved a "02" spring from Glock and ran another 500 rounds of the cheap and expensive stuff. It was worse.
Being a Glock fan and armorer as well as a police firearms instructor and an avid competitor in IDPA as well as the Glock Sport Shooting Foundation...I have never had these problems with any of the other Glock pistols (about 30) I have owned since 1998. This particular pistol was an award from a recent GSSF match. I paid nothing for it.
Tomorrow I will be hand carrying it to a regional Glock rep to look at and possibly shoot. He already gave me two new 02 springs to try. We will see.
I love everything about the pistol as far as grip stippling, magazine release, adjustable overlays. Mine just does not work well.
I have a brand new unfired Glock 19 Gen4 as well. I will try it out this week. I hope my new 19 is one of those "It eats everything I feed it with no problems" models that will return my faith to the platform. As for the G17... I hope to get an adapter and put an original Gen3 spring into the pistol to improve its reliability. We will see.
Bottom line... The Gen4 is NOT a guaranteed reliable pistol in my opinion based on my personal experience. You may get lucky BUT I will not reccomend them to people.
AustinTX
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Uh, that happened three decades ago. Taurus pistols are no longer built on Beretta tooling, and they haven't been for a long time.
AustinTX
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Problems that Beretta also solved going on three decades ago.
DualBerettas
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Beretta made the Rx4 which is now the Benelli MR1...
anyway, let not jack the thread...
DB
anyway, let not jack the thread...
DB
Frozen North
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The Hi Jack that just wont die!!!
My Gen 4 Glock eats any garbage I want to feed it. It takes steel cased herters and wolf junk even. The gun is like a garbage disposal.
My Gen 4 Glock eats any garbage I want to feed it. It takes steel cased herters and wolf junk even. The gun is like a garbage disposal.
txgunsuscg
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I have a Gen 4 23 that I haven't had any problems with. I shot Federal and Blazer Brass through it. From what I have heard all the problems are with the 17 and 19, and have been fixed. Just make sure you verify the spring is the new one, as indicated in the earlier post.
To the other guys not even talking about the OP's subject, GO MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD AND ARGUE BERETTA CLONES!:banghead:
To the other guys not even talking about the OP's subject, GO MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD AND ARGUE BERETTA CLONES!:banghead:
Lucas_Y
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WHY are you talking about berettas and the like in a GLOCK THREAD!?
My wife's gen 4 G19 has had some issues right out the box. It has the 0 3 spring in it, not the the 0 4. Weak ejection, and failures to feed when using cheap bulk ammo with her shooting. I can make the gun run 100%, aside from the weak ejection, on cheap ammo by putting it in a death grip. No problems with any of the hollow points that we've tried. Just sprung too strong for the powder puff ammo is all. I'm going to call Glock and get the new spring for range trips, maybe it will make shooting cheap ammo more enjoyable instead of clearing malfunctions every few shots.
My wife's gen 4 G19 has had some issues right out the box. It has the 0 3 spring in it, not the the 0 4. Weak ejection, and failures to feed when using cheap bulk ammo with her shooting. I can make the gun run 100%, aside from the weak ejection, on cheap ammo by putting it in a death grip. No problems with any of the hollow points that we've tried. Just sprung too strong for the powder puff ammo is all. I'm going to call Glock and get the new spring for range trips, maybe it will make shooting cheap ammo more enjoyable instead of clearing malfunctions every few shots.
varoadking
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I have 4 Gen4's and haven't had one lick of trouble out of any of them - G17, G19, G22 & G35...
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