New 6" GP100 Range report.....

Isn't that why you purchased a revolver with adjustable sights? So that you can adjust them to your shooting?

I'm confused.

Do you believe that the factory should have adjusted them for you?

gd

If you had a fixed-sight gun, I could see your problem.

Happy shooting.

gd

Unfortunatly there production firearms with tolerences ,if these tolerences bother you here`s a few checks to do first .

1 shoot with your wrists rested on something .
2 let another shooter shoot it .
3 last but not least inspect the frame & barrel fit to see if the barrel is over/under center with the frame (crooked)

If it`s crooked , call Ruger They`ll make it RIGHT & if they don`t offer a UPS pick up ,ask for it !!!

Actually, I would expect a GP100 to shoot pretty much to point of aim with standard weight ammo. Hitting 5+" off at 7 yards with a 6" barrel weapon would bother me quite a bit.

That would bother me, too. Esp the windage error. If it were me, I'd make sure it's the gun, and not me. Are you shooting DA or SA? Try SA. Then try shooting it left handed. Then try benching it off some sandbags. Near every gun I've ever owned has shot dead center out of the box after getting my grip and trigger pull down.

As for the elevation, it depends on what kind of ammo you're shooting. Wadcutters or other heavy, slow bullets will impact much higher than light magnum loads out of a revolver. If I had to adjust the elevation all the way down with a 125gr magnum load, I'd be upset.

It would bother me too, the windage thing.

Can you move the entire rear sight to one direction, then center up the adjustment screw, or is it pretty much fixed to the frame?

Is it possible you're pushing or pulling the gun when shooting and that's why it was so far off?

Isn't that why you purchased a revolver with adjustable sights? So that you can adjust them to your shooting?

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That brings up an issue I was wondering about.

Let's say that a group of skilled shooters are given identical guns with identical ammo. Will some of them adjust their sights quite differently than others in that group? Is sight adjustment a personal thing where one must do what works for them, but may not work at all for another?

Or is there a "correct" sight adjustment for a given gun & ammo and if it doesn't work for you that automatically means you're shooting technique is wrong? Fixed sight guns seem to suggest one "correct" sight position exists, or maybe they're just saying "hey, it's a defensive gun where we expect you to shoot so close that it doesn't really matter, 'cause if they were any closer you could whack them in the head with the gun."

saenzrich,

Your question was not stupid. I have personally had an issue with an adjustable sighted firearm that had to have the sights adjusted all the way to the left (so much so it visually looked way out of center) just to get the shots on target. A little adjustment is ok, but alot may indicate that the barrel is not on straight.

It happens sometimes. Read GP100 Mans post, and follow his directions to a T. He's hittin the nail on the head with this one.

My GP100 6" was dead on put of the box. FWIW

Same here. I was rather impressed.

Let's say that a group of skilled shooters are given identical guns with identical ammo. Will some of them adjust their sights quite differently than others in that group? Is sight adjustment a personal thing where one must do what works for them, but may not work at all for another?

Or is there a "correct" sight adjustment for a given gun & ammo and if it doesn't work for you that automatically means you're shooting technique is wrong? Fixed sight guns seem to suggest one "correct" sight position exists, or maybe they're just saying "hey, it's a defensive gun where we expect you to shoot so close that it doesn't really matter, 'cause if they were any closer you could whack them in the head with the gun."

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I've always felt that sight adjustment is somewhat shooter-dependent. For instance, grip can affect POI, and different shooters will grip the same gun differently. And I'm just guessing here, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out we all see fine details a little differently, so your eyes might have you aligning the sights ever-so-slightly differently than me.

All said, though, I agree that the sight shouldn't have to be adjusted to one of it's extremes to hit center. I, too, would suspect a barrel that's not on straight. The rear sight leaf could also be bent (noticed that on one of my guns).

Try different ammo--every one is subject to shooting diferently in the same gun. Yours sounds like an extreme case, but try a different bullet weight.

Try different ammo--every one is subject to shooting diferently in the same gun. Yours sounds like an extreme case, but try a different bullet weight.

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I know how ammo choice could impact elevation, but I'm curious how it could have an effect on windage? Does some ammo have a tendency to hit right or hit left?

It should shoot very close to poa out of the box at 7 yards if I read it right. Having to adjust sight to it's outer most 1/3 of action is a bit much.

But it's a tank right.

If you're doing your part in shooting correctly, it sounds like the barrel may be mis aligned. Since your sights are adjusted full to the right, the barrel is likely screwed in just short of center. You can sight down the barrel, comparing the rib alignment with top of the frame, if their not very close to parallel, the alignment is off a bit.

This is a common issue with many guns. I have quite a few guns that had mis-aligned barrels from the factory. My Security-Six was tightened over center, and my sights were completely up against the left hand stop to get the boolets in the black of the target. A laser bore sighter confirmed this.

Anyway, if the barrel is not centered properly, Ruger will correct this for you, free of charge. I like to have my gun shop send in the gun, it saves me about $50 in UPS overnight.

As far as the rear sight being close to all the way down, with Rugers this is a good thing, really. If a Ruger sight is elevated much, it can be pushed down when holstered, this pushes the detent away from the elevation screw, and the screw can go rogue on you. I prefer Ruger sights to be correctly adjusted within about 1 1/2 turns of bottom. You can look into a slightly higher front sight, this will allow you to bring up the rear. If you send the gun into Ruger, they may address this issue too (I don't know if Ruger offers different heights of front sights).

Good Luck, I have always been satisfied with Ruger Customer Service.

My GP100 6" was dead on put of the box. FWIW

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So was mine. The 5" windage would bother me a lot.

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Anyway, if the barrel is not centered properly, Ruger will correct this for you, free of charge. I like to have my gun shop send in the gun, it saves me about $50 in UPS overnight.

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If the gun is new and/or still under warranty, you can usually request Ruger to issue a UPS "call tag" to ship the gun back to them at their expense for repair.

Some years back, I ordered a new Ruger SBH 10.5" .44 Mag from an internet dealer that arrived with an off-index barrel which required the rear sight to be cranked so far to the right to compensate that part of the sight blade was hanging off the base. A quick call to Ruger's customer service resulted in their issuing a UPS "call tag" to retrieve the gun for repair. It was back in my hands within two weeks, perfectly repaired, and at no expense to me.

If the gun is new and/or still under warranty, you can usually request Ruger to issue a UPS "call tag" to ship the gun back to them at their expense for repair.

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They seem to have good service, despite the lack of any official warranty. (Look at the back of any Ruger owners manual.) I'd read many positive stories about Ruger fixing defects and I got to experience it myself.

They immediately e-mailed me a pre-paid UPS label to send a 4-month old MK-III back to Arizona. They ended up replacing the receiver/barrel assembly. Since this massive part has the serial number upon it, it's deemed by the nit wits at the BATFE to be a new "firearm" and thus they had to send it to the FFL of my choice. Ruger sent me a check to cover the $42 cost of having the "new firearm" transferred back to me.

I'm sure Ruger lost a pile of money there. It was only a $350 gun (less after using an offer that provided a $100 Cabela's card for buying it as part of a $400 purchase).

mine that I bought nib some 20 years ago. was dead on for everone but me. for some reason i was 2" low and to the left...
Now its dead on form me and 2" high and to the right for anyone else.. go figure.

I have a SBH in 44 Mag and the sight is all the way over. Shoots good, but the sight is as far as it will go.

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My GP100 6" was dead on put of the box. FWIW

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+1, no need to adjust mine. I have sold guns that required full windage adjustment in order to sight correctly. I would contact Ruger if I had that issue on a new gun.

My .41 mag BH was shooting to the left for me too. I had to bring the sight to the right but I didn't max out it's adjustment range. Here is pic of what mine looks like.

Alot of it has to do with the load you're using. Very few loads will shoot dead center with the sights centered. But having to max out the windage is unacceptable. Benchrest it to confirm, then send it back.