Flash Mobs In Phila

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Isn't it a shame that you have to be worried about a mob of kids(?) when going to one of the most historic cities in our country? I have been to Philly a few times, was never armed, and never felt threatend.
 
If you have read the Philadelphia news papers and seen the actual scenes on TV you would be worried also. Plus adding to that the interviews with the injured and beaten citizens. I must add this addendum without seeming to be bragging; my younger son works in center city Philadelphia as a IT professional and he too is worried about these flash mobs. My son is 6'3'' 195 lb in excellent physical condition. Was an All State qualifier in wrestling and holds a 3rd degree black belt in Tae Kwan Do and a regional champion in his weight class plus being an active karate instructor. If he is concerned about a crazy mob of teenagers bent on destruction, shouldn't the rest of us be concerned also? Your call.
 
Isn't it a shame that you have to be worried about a mob of kids(?) when going to one of the most historic cities in our country? I have been to Philly a few times, was never armed, and never felt threatend.
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Yes, it is.
What's really troublesome to me about it is that one wonders where the parents of these kids are, and why didn't they teach these kids a little better about right and wrong?

That sounds corny, I realize, but somewhere along the line, it looks like a whole generation of parents really dropped the ball.

At some point, these flash mob attacks are going to happen in the wrong city, to the wrong people who come up shooting (justifiably, of course) in their own defense, and then where will we be, huh?

Ann Coulter compared the London rioters to animals. Bereft of all moral character. A mob is a mob wherever it happens to be on the map.
 
There are places/areas that I simply don’t go to. In other words I practice avoidance. Example Winston-Salem not to be confused with a major city has its sections that I simply do not go near or drive thru.

Haines Shopping Mall started having problems with gangs of youths roaming the mall. Mall management and retailers soon realized retail sales were being significantly impacted. They implemented a procedure that required adult chaperones be with youths or the youths would not be admitted. Minority advocates complained charging racism but that argument was with out standing because the procedure stipulated all youths.
 
Loadedround, I have seen the videos of some of the mobs and the victims. That's why I question the use of the word kids. They looked like adults to me. I wasn't taking a swipe at you. I have been there as recently as this time last year. It seems to me that you would want people to come, to bring money and spend it. That's something I guess I will never understand, people complain about their station in life, but always seem to want to keep it.
 
Keep in mind Governer Casey signed the Castle Doctrine bill but it does not take effect until the beginning of September.
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Governor Casey? Did he come back from the dead?

I thought the Castle Doctrice focused on an intruder to your home, hence the name "Castle". :confused:

We should be hanging up these little bastards by their Buster Browns, just like the mayor in "Jaws" said. Except they are typcially wearing $200 Nikes. :rolleyes:
 
At some point, these flash mob attacks are going to happen in the wrong city, to the wrong people who come up shooting (justifiably, of course) in their own defense, and then where will we be, huh?
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Yep, it is only a matter of time before one of these groups of thugs makes a fatal error in the victim selection process - like an armed off duty cop or citizen that knows how his/her way around a gun.
 
I thought the Castle Doctrice focused on an intruder to your home, hence the name "Castle".
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Some states include wording in their "castle doctrine" law that removes duty to retreat from anywhere that you have a right to be. But, not being familiar with PA law, I don't know if they do or not.
 
Flash Mob or Hate Crimes?

If the mobs are of one race and those mobs only target individuals for another race doesn't that make these attacks on individuals hate crimes? And if hate crimes are they not violations of Civil Rights? And shouldn't the DoJ step in to investigate?
 
P5guy: Your comment makes a lot of sense and that is exactly what has happened in Philadelphia so far by continued observation of TV coverage and newspaper photos. I won't make any racial statments on this but it certainly lends itself for some serious thought and discussions on the part of our citizens, politicians, and clergy. As previouslly stated a flash mob situation may occur in the wrong city and with the wrong people and there will be hell to pay.
 
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legally, if you are justified, you are justified......if you went through all the proper actions, your as safe as you can be in a situation like this.......
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Oh yeah. Obeying the law ALWAYS guarantees you'll not have to worry about a thing!
 
If the mobs are of one race and those mobs only target individuals for another race doesn't that make these attacks on individuals hate crimes? And if hate crimes are they not violations of Civil Rights? And shouldn't the DoJ step in to investigate?
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Nice thought in theory, but the concept of a "hate crime" is sadly a one way street......
 
Gottahaveone: This exact question came up in a front page opinion column in The Philadelphia Inquirer Opinion page. Again it was strictly one sided. A very right wing liberal newspaper, but that's all we have. LR
 
Nice thought in theory, but the concept of a "hate crime" is sadly a one way street......
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I know a kid (who is now serving a life sentance for murder) who was convicted of a hate crime, because of his history of choosing white targets. This was one of the aggrivating factors that led to his life w/o parole sentancing. Of his storied criminal history, the vast majority of his victims were white, and the overwhelming majority of those were violent crimes. He is what convinced me than juvenile justice is a farce in this country. He attacked and killed a guy mere weeks, maybe a couple months, after being released from a year plus incarceration in a juvenile facility. Oh, he managed to snatch $0.47 from the guy as he lay dying.
 
I mentioned Bernie Goetz because he had defended himself against 5 punks who tried to rob him. He was acquitted of all charges except one, carrying an unregistired handgun. Couldn't you stretch the defination of "flash mob" to cover these teenage punks? They were not running wild but congregating in a subway car. BTW, Philadelphia was quiet over the past weekend.
 
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