Thoughts on - Remington Golden Saber 124gr +P

Core Jacket Seperation! Go with the 147's, much better gel, and heavy clothing numbers, without the risk of the jacket seperating from the corps.

www.ammolab.com do a search, or www.tacticalforums.com and search there too. Everyone at both of those forums seems very helpful, and willing to take as much time as needed to give you the tools to make the best decision for you. They shy away from the what is best questions, and focus on you learning and studying for yourself. I have been interested in ballistics since I was in the Corps, and in my current line of work, have participated in many hours of ballistics testing, I have been nothing but impressd by the accuracy of information I have gathered on those sites. Spending a few hours on each reading old posts, and doing searches will really get you up to speed. Good luck, and Semper Fi!!!!

You didn't mention what barrel length you are using. I personally would stay away in the 147gr bullets in the shorter barrel lengths.

If you aren't dead set on the Golden Sabers you will find many satisfied users of the 124gr +P Gold dot bullets. I use this in my little 3.0" barreled PM as as well as larger weapons.

Good Shooting
Red

I like Remington Golden Sabers. They seem to have less muzzle flash than most others - much less than Hydra-Shoks. I find very, very little difference in recoil between the 124gr+P GS and the standard pressure 124gr.
Golden Sabers are my first choice in both 9mm and .45

Brigrat, core/jacket separation in the Golden Sabers is largely a thing of the past now that they've introduced their new "Bonded" range. This is a new bullet, where the jacket is bonded to the core in order to resist separation. I've bought some in .40 S&W (165gr. JHP) and 9mm (124gr JHP +P), and have been very impressed by it, both visually and in limited testing. Certainly the .40 load is now my carry load of choice in that caliber.

My informal water bottle tests 3 years ago showed me that pushing a golden sabre really fast ment jacket seperation....

No problems with the gold dots.

Although the jacket seperated, the core still expanded....

Goden Saber Bonded Bullets have not performed as well as their non-bonded bullets in testing. If it were my 9mm, and I was going to carry Golden sabers, I would choose their 147 gr every time no matter what the barrel length.

The 147gr 9mm bullets are much better out of short barrels (comapared to the lighter stuff), as the 147 tend to have a much larger window of expansion than the 115's, and 124's. I wouldn't carry anything but 147's in short barrell 9mm's. If you doubt this is the case, go watch some ballistics testing. I have been at the ballistics testing, and now carry Gold Dot 124+P's in my 4inch barrells, and Gold Dot 147's in my short barrells. I have seen the results with my own eyes, and the info you will find on ammolab, and Tacticalforums will most definently coincide with what I am saying. Light fast bullets do go faster out of short barrels, but they don't go as fast as they do out of longer barrels. Their expansion window has been proven to be much smaller than the slow and heavy 147's. Do the research, watch the tests, I am sure you will agree.