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I'm picking a new, to me, Model 57. In doing some research for reloading for this caliber I looked at Missouri Bullet 215gr "Keith" style Lswc. (I get a discount there from the club) so...all of my manuals have data for either 210 or 220grs. Does anybody reload this bullet? If so, where do you get your data? Or should I just get Speer, Hornady, or some lswc at 210/220 grs? My plan for this load gun is target shooting.


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Rikman
 
The lead bullets will be your most affordable choice, just use 210 gr lead data and you'll be fine.
 
Bush Pilot

That's why I looked at the MBC bullets, I use them for my 38spl loads. The 41's with my discount are about $39 for 500ct. I guessed using the 210 lead data would be ok.
 
Use the 210 data, just don't start right at the top. Back off a little -- which you should do anyway at first -- and you should be fine.

I cast my own 210's using a Lee mold and load them with 9.0 grains of Rex-3 powder. I can't get Rex anymore (I wish I'd bought a bunch of it while it was still available) so am going to work up a new load soon. Will probably use Power Pistol or AA#7 or Herco.
 
Zxcvbob

Thanks for reply. Yes, I usually split the difference between min & max charges for my handgun loads.

I'm just still wondering where the 215 grs number came from & lack of specific data ?


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Lyman has a 215gr .41 mag bullet mold #410610 that they list data for. If you buy one of the compiled load data One Book/One caliber books for the .41 mag you will find data for the 215 gr cast along with most other weight bullets.
 
The Lyman Pistol & Revolver Handbook is a great source for good loads with cast bullets. Another good source is the web sites by the powder suppliers.
Also look at the sites that specialize in cast bullets.

The 41 mag rocks with cast bullets !
I run my 6 inch guns with loads near the top.

In a 4 inch gun, I find these are a little too much.

To introduce a new shooter to revolver shooting, you can start with Trail Boss loads that feel like a 22 from an N frame.

Midrange loads are fun for plinking.

I have used lots for the MBC 215 Troopers since they became available.
Pick a powder that is suitable for the velocity you want.

Be Safe and Have Fun !
-steve
 
Cast 210-215:

7.5 grains of Unique duplicates the advertised velocities of the old "Police" load. A nice, accurate load that doesn't beat the gun up. Clocked about 950-960 fps in my Model 58. A good, general-purpose load for plinking, casual target shooting, or a camp gun where you don't need to worry about bears.

8.5 grains steps into low-end "Magnum" territory for 1100 fps give or take 10. 9.0 grains gets you solidly into mid 1100s. Still not a punishing load, but offers ample power for deer and pigs. 9 grains is my favorite all-around loading for the cartridge when the need for maximum power isn't anticipated.

18 Grains of 2400 with the same bullet is a rock'em, sock'em load that'll shoot through the average Whitetail lengthwise. You can bump that up a grain or so in a Blackhawk or Redhawk, but I wouldn't push it with the Smith.
 
I bought myself a 41 not long ago and had the same troubles you're having. There is a 41 mag thread in the revolver section that has a lot of good information. I myself would use the data for the next heavier bullet and start low and work up.
 
Gentlemen,

Thanks for the info. I think I saw the Lyman's revolver & pistol book at Cabela's. The powder sites were not much help.


Rikman


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Congrats, I passed on buying a ruger blackhawk in .41 mag several months ago used in great shape for $299 at a lgs. I could have got it for less bc of being a regular customer. I'm STUPID!!!!
 
I am getting really good results with 11 gr. of AA#5 with a 210 gr. Lee tumble lube bullet cast from wheel weights. This load puts 6 rounds into 1.5" at 25 yards from my Blackhawk. And no leading. I took my son out to the range and we shot 100 rounds as fast as we could reload and reset the steel targets and no leading. The gun got pretty hot!

My Marlin 1894FG hates this load. I think it might be a little too small for the microgroove rifling.
 
I'm just still wondering where the 215 grs number came from & lack of specific data
Cast bullet weight is not an exact science.
It all depends on the lead alloy used to cast it.


If you have a Lyman 215 nominal weight bullet mold?
If you cast a bullet in it using pure lead, it will weigh about 220.
If you cast it with very hard Linotype alloy, it will weight about 210.
If you cast it with Lyman #2 alloy, it will weight about 215.

Then when you size and lube it, it will weigh about 5 grains more, due to the bullet lube you added.

rc
 
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RC,

THanks for chiming in...I was waiting for you. I appreciate the expertise & info!
I actually picked up a bunch of books at Cabelas just now. Nosler's Manual, Cartridges of the World, Lyman's Pistol & Revolver Manual. I love reading this stuff. My library is growing nicely. Next are dies for 41Mag.


Rikman
 
What rc said. I use an RCBS 210-grain mould. RCBS calibrates with Lyman #2, as do most mould makers. With my alloy, they fall out at 213 grains. Lubed, they weigh 217 grains.

Specific data for a 210-grain bullet can be used with a 215-grain bullet, assuming that both bullets occupy an equal or nearly equal volume of the case...especially if you're not into pushing the envelope with your pressures.
 
Tuner,

Thanks for the input. Your posts are very informative. This gun is going to be for fun,target shooting,plinking, so I don't intend to push the limits. I think I'm going to start with unique since I have so much of it on hand. I also plan on trying out those MBC bullets since I get a little discount and am happy with their 38's.


Rikman
 
What rc said. I use an RCBS 210-grain mould. RCBS calibrates with Lyman #2, as do most mould makers. With my alloy, they fall out at 213 grains. Lubed, they weigh 217 grains.

Specific data for a 210-grain bullet can be used with a 215-grain bullet, assuming that both bullets occupy an equal or nearly equal volume of the case...especially if you're not into pushing the envelope with your pressures.
Tuner,

that's interesting how your weight vary. But, like you guys say, as long as you don't push the limits, those small variances shouldn't matter.
 
I'm using 7 grains of Unique with the 215 gr LSWC from MB. Soft load and accurate.
 
Gee, I just took the minimum 210 grain load, and the minimum 220 grain load (same powder) and split the difference for the 215 gr lead Missouri Bullet...
Simple me. :)
 
I just checked my Lyman's manual and it recommends a starting load of 7.8 grs of unique with a 215 gr LSWC....interesting some of you guys load at just a bit under this....
 
You need to go to MidwayUSA right now and order a "Load Book" for the .41 mag. It's a small paper back book that has 512 loads with 20 different bullet designs and 35 powders. It costs about $9.00 and it is my primary source for .41 mag loads.

It pulls data from a bunch of manuals, Speer, Alliant, Nosler, Hornday, Speer, Lyman, Hodgdon etc.

Nine bucks...go get it.
 
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