California Gun Owners Could Use Your Help Against SB249

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Thanks to all of you who took the time to sign the petition.

As y'all probably know - when it comes to gun control, bad ideas start in California. The "Assault Weapon Ban" started in California. The idea to ban "Saturday Night Specials" started in California. Safe Storage laws, lost & stolen reporting, "cooling off periods" - all started in California.

State Senator Leland Yee used up valuable political capital to launch this bill. Stopping it damages him. It demonstrates that those who take up the banner of gun control will have to pay a political price to do so. It will demonstrate that gun control is political poison.

But we still need the help of the rest of you.

There are more than 200 million gun owners in the US. There isn't another constituency with as much potential political power. We simply need to exercise it.

By signing this petition, you exercise some of that power.

Please help.

Thank you.

Josh Berger
Director - The Calguns Foundation
 
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Not that often. But this was a great reason to see if my password still worked. :D

Did you see that we finally got a gunshop plaintiff?
 
Keep up the momentum! Tuesday July 3 is the date that this bill (and some other bad firearms legislation) is being heard by the Assembly Public Safety Committee.
 
Signed, hope it makes a difference for a Michigander to add their name to the list.

My experience is that even legislators within Mi don't care what you think unless you live in THEIR district.
 
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I was under the impression that civil rights are different than inalienable rights. Civil rights are granted by government and may be violated if the established procedures are followed. There is no right to keep and bear arms in the California constitution. Therefore, the conditions under which California citizens and illegal aliens may keep and bear arms are subject to the whims of politicians. You will never win this politically and it will never end. Get out and move to a state that is not failing.
 
tomrkba said:
Get out and move to a state that is not failing.
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If the pro-gun community gives up on CA, then it is setting itself up for failure down the road.

CA has the most Congressmen in the Union and makes up approximately 12% of the House of Representatives and their job is to make FEDERAL LAWS, which effect all of the USA.

Instead of giving up and advocating others to flee from fighting for something they believe in, why not support those struggling to make a difference?
 
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The page says 764 signatures. What happened to the >5000 that were there a couple of days ago?
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If it's the one on the main page, that one is for those who have signed to tell the Assembly Committee on Appropriations "No!" If you're looking for the main petition, it's here and is up to 8,350 as I type this.

Hope this helps, and Thank You to those who have helped. This one's not over yet, and I, for one, really do appreciate your help.
 
As much as I'd like to help your cause, I'm not sure I understand exactly what this petition does for you. I'm in Texas - I can't imagine my signature would count for squat on anything having to do with a proposed California state law. Is it just a symbolic show of support? That's fine if it is, I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
 
I travel to California for work and if this bill goes through there won't be any range time for me with my friends and colleagues who have already gone through the draconian rules in California.

California has a lot of influence outside the state. Their Congresscritters have influence on the national level and they use their representation of the people of California as the justification for much of what they do. Block the trend to ever more restrictive firearms laws in California and you remove the foundation upon which other states emulate them and upon which their national level politicians justify their Anti stance.
 
Petition signed, email to assembly committee sent, shared on Facebook 3 times. Thanks to everyone else for participating. Living in CA is so frustrating sometimes.
 
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Thought I would update this thread. Senator Yee has amended SB249 again. In this upcoming revision, the language has been modified to include the bullet button so that any BB'd AR or AK will be banned in California next year. Next, they will undoubtedly go after featureless.

After Aurora, I am sure that even those of you who live in free states are starting to get the idea that we, as gun owners, nationally, will stand or fall together. The proposed 10 round magazine law, the screams for renewal of the national AW ban, we must stand together and defeat this madness.

If we lose ARs and AKs in California, it is only a matter of time before your rights will be attacked in your states.

www.stopsb249.org to see how you can help us.
 
I don’t think you are doing your side any favors by telling Red Staters that what happens in California is a harbinger for them. California’s leftist electorate has been electing gun-haters and supporting anti-gun legislation for decades and there is no evidence that Red States are following their lead, or that California has enough political muscle to force anything through at the Federal level.
 
So even though there is a major high level push on renewing the national AWB, banning hi cap mags and the new national Internet ammunition restrictions that was just proposed, life for shooters in the free states is just going to continue on its merry way?

Don't you read all of the firearms boards, American Rifleman and the national press, these things are going to affect you. We are the front lines where all of this B.S. begins. California has some of the most strict gun laws in the nation and is seen as the leader in the "fight" by anti-gunners. Sure, red states have a stronger legislative base to fight from but there are plenty of anti-gunners in red states too and they are in this fight.

I am obviously not going to convince you to change your mind but perhaps if you look into the stuff that is coming down from Washington, you will gain some awareness that your rights are in jeopardy and that we, in California, are the front lines of the fight. Things can and will be changing for firearms owners nationally, it won't matter which state you live in so you can ignore it and hope it doesn't affect you or be proactive and do something about it.
 
As I stated before, Californians have the right to keep (not bear*) arms only at the will of their legislature. There will be no bans in my state because our constitution has the right to keep and bear arms. Federal regulation is based on the commerce clause and is being used to override the Second Amendment. This shall not continue and the SAF is in the process of challenging the commerce clause's supremacy over amendments.

Fix your constitution and your problem goes away. Fight this battle, but you should spend more time on an amendment.

* The open carry ban should be all the proof you need.
 
I agree, I would love to fix our state constitution but gun owners have very miniscule political power and advertising budgets in this state.

Coming to an ammo vendor that you use soon. http://www.nraila.org/legislation/f...-gun-lawmakers-push-ammunition-sales-ban.aspx

States rights won't matter much if the antis cut off affordable, convenient ammo supplies. A lot people feel that this is the next big anti agenda, they are losing the war against gun control but they may be able to do other things that make shooting too expensive and inconvenient.

No different than acquiring an AOW in California. Perfectly legal, a few people do it. I wanted to do it but the money, time, hassle and hoops I have to go through have made me talk myself out of it. This is the type of "slow death" strategy that many of the more intelligent antis are pushing for, over regulate it, tax the heck out of it, ban it where you can and eventually, generationally, the old geezers like us will die off and the younger generation will not see the value of pursuing the war on guns.
 
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