Cheapest .45 ACP Lead Bullets
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oneounceload
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Z cast was fast when I order some 45 bullets to try - my USPS carrier was put out as the boxes were HEAVY - good looking stuff for the price
sellersm
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I may be wrong, but I think he takes some time off in the summer. I know my order hasn't shown up for a while, but I'm in no hurry...
FROGO207
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Yeah he takes the hotter months off from casting. I get my lead bullets I buy from both Missouri Bullet and Z Cast and rate both of them highly.
Re: Casting Your Own Bullets
Back when I started casting my own bullets (about 1973), I bought an RCBS Lubri-Sizer. I slugged my barrels and ensured that all my bullets were sized to 0.001" over groove diameter.
After using the god-forsaken LubriSizer for about a year, I read an article in Handloader about shooting As-Cast bullets.
I then cast a bunch of bullets and measure about 20 randomly to find the largest diameter and bought a sizing "die" in 0.358" for my 9x19 and 0.453" for my .45 Auto.
I then started comparing "as cast" (since the sizing die was not touching more than maybe 5% of the bullets) and sized. In almost every case, for difference cast bullets and different powder charges, the as-cast bullets were more accurate.
I haven't really sized a bullet since then.
When I read about pan-lubbing, I started doing that and only used the LubriSizer for lubing rifle bullets (7mm TCU and .30-30)--again, with sizing dies large enough to just barely kiss the occasional bullet.
When LLA and tumble lubing came out, I started doing that.
Currently, I haven't been able to maintain my lead supplies so I have been buying commercial. I am every so tempted to have them ship me as-cast and non-lubed bullets, but I am just getting too old to worry about the increased accuracy and prefer to spend the time I have left shooting.
I have really only read about so many die-hard bullet sizers in the last few years--most of whom have never tried as-cast bullets and assume that sizing somehow makes all their bullets more consistent and ANYTHING that is more consistent is ALWAYS going to produce better accuracy and will not even consider trying anything since they KNOW it can't work.
Back when I started casting my own bullets (about 1973), I bought an RCBS Lubri-Sizer. I slugged my barrels and ensured that all my bullets were sized to 0.001" over groove diameter.
After using the god-forsaken LubriSizer for about a year, I read an article in Handloader about shooting As-Cast bullets.
I then cast a bunch of bullets and measure about 20 randomly to find the largest diameter and bought a sizing "die" in 0.358" for my 9x19 and 0.453" for my .45 Auto.
I then started comparing "as cast" (since the sizing die was not touching more than maybe 5% of the bullets) and sized. In almost every case, for difference cast bullets and different powder charges, the as-cast bullets were more accurate.
I haven't really sized a bullet since then.
When I read about pan-lubbing, I started doing that and only used the LubriSizer for lubing rifle bullets (7mm TCU and .30-30)--again, with sizing dies large enough to just barely kiss the occasional bullet.
When LLA and tumble lubing came out, I started doing that.
Currently, I haven't been able to maintain my lead supplies so I have been buying commercial. I am every so tempted to have them ship me as-cast and non-lubed bullets, but I am just getting too old to worry about the increased accuracy and prefer to spend the time I have left shooting.
I have really only read about so many die-hard bullet sizers in the last few years--most of whom have never tried as-cast bullets and assume that sizing somehow makes all their bullets more consistent and ANYTHING that is more consistent is ALWAYS going to produce better accuracy and will not even consider trying anything since they KNOW it can't work.
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Sizing is dependent on your mold. If your mold drops at .359 and you need .359 you are good to go. I have molds I use for 9mm and 357. When using for 9mm I have to size down. When using for 357 I don't. But this is also a custom made mold. With an off the shelf mold you are more likely to have to size. There are also plenty of people that just lube with their lubrisizers. Everyones experiences are different so don't assume that what worked for you will work for someone else.
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My favorite is MBC IDP #4-XD 200gr RNFP. In stock, now, at Powder Valley.
They feed great in 1911 and Glock 21. And the crimp groove allows taper crimp and seating in one step with no shaving.
I've used Zcast, and they're fine. A little rough around the edges, though.
They feed great in 1911 and Glock 21. And the crimp groove allows taper crimp and seating in one step with no shaving.
I've used Zcast, and they're fine. A little rough around the edges, though.
blackfoot5
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Try Dardas bullets and Quality Cast. Two very nice guys with great products - gene
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