Hickenloooper says he will sign the HB 1224 ban on Wednesday 3/20

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Easy HK,
I know lots of Dems that are gun owners. Party affiliation doesn't define a person. My mother is a Democrat. Yet I had my fathers 357 in my hands from the age of 5 and she never protested. My grandfather was a Dem, yet when he died last year he left 5 guns to me and my brother. That's just my family. I have many friends whose parents and grandparents are Dems. And they own lots of guns. One grandpa who is well into his 70's has a 500 S&W.

Now if you want to differentiate between libs and conservatives then I understand.
 
Now if you want to differentiate between libs and conservatives then I understand.
Yes, you'll find liberals and conservatives in both parties. But liberals are presently dominating the Democratic party, and setting its agenda. And liberals in the Republican party are usually denigrated as RINO's. So party identification is strongly correlated here. BTW, I'm a registered Democrat. But I gave up on the party years ago, and have been voting Republican for years. In my state, we have open primaries, so party affiliation is rather meaningless, and there is no incentive for me to update my party registration.

I might add that ideas an attitudes here do not boil down to just "liberal" and "conservative." The "libertarian" point of view is becoming significant, and relevant. I'm a "social con," but I'd like to see the Republican party develop a more "libertarian" approach, and I think many conservatives would go along with that. Get the .gov out of making social policy altogether, or at least as much as is practical. My example here would be "marriage." Get the .gov out of it altogether. Implicitly, under the constitution, marriage is a "right" reserved to the people. Let each church, synagogue, or mosque decide what its view here is. Start using the Constitution, and in particular the Bill of Rights, the way it was intended: to limit the reach of the government to tells us what we can do and not do. Like keeping and bearing arms!
 
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I know lots of Dems that are gun owners. Party affiliation doesn't define a person..

yes very true in the past but with the 2-party system becoming more polarized, example being liberal vs conservatives, I believe being a gun owner the democratic party should not be the choice.

To me the only way to salvage our now dysfunctional political system is to seriously introduce a third party. Ironically I feel the third party might be all that we need to salvage this bad marriage

edit: please allow me to suggest the libertarian party
 
how could any gun owner be a Democrat?
probably just opening a rathole but there are other issues than the 2A. Yes this is a gun board, yes there is a clear advantage between parties on guns.

Not every gun owner places the 2A as the #1 issue. These other issues, combined with Hick saying guns are not the issue after Aurora, are what put the (D) in power here.


I response to changing your party affiliation, check first. Do you live in a district like I do where the state elections are decided in the primary? If so, stay in whatever party is dominant in your disctrict.
 
...Do you live in a district like I do where the state elections are decided in the primary? If so, stay in whatever party is dominant in your disctrict.

This. When I lived "back east" the election almost always went to the dems, so I would register as a dem (no open primaries then/there). Occasionally we'd have a republican with a chance so I'd change in time to help get him/her through the primary.

On Colorado, I typically spend most of my summer there. I've got to be there a couple weeks this summer (family obligations/work commitments) but I'll spend as little as possible there until this mess is overturned. Helping one family member flee Colorado Springs for Wyoming in June, and another is just starting the process. (Looking at Montana, but I'm advising WY or UT, as Montana is also starting to slide).
 
The recall effort should begin one minute later.

The ballot initiative to repeal should already be underway.

Voting out the... um, already have enough infractions, so let's just describe them as uninformed, misguided, and foolish lawmakers who erred and need to be replaced... should occur with the next election.

If they get away with this, it will encourage others to do the same in other states or to come back with even more in CO.
 
We need to organize and get a list out to people now, about who to vote for in upcoming elections in all states. We cannot wait until the last minute to do this, they need time to process the information and spread the word.
 
This will become law, and it will then be up to the courts to see if it stands. Reading Mr. Anderson's legal analysis gives me hope that a good, legal argument can be made for the Courts to overturn this law.
 
Wake up, Coloradoans!

Hope my neighbors get their state back. Legalizing pot by popular vote and passing more gun laws makes us nervous here in Nebraska.:fire: I hope there are enough conservatives in Colorado to get the gun grabbers and pot heads out of their government.:banghead:
Rod
 
I would respectfully say that the 2A is THE most important amendment. Without it, the other ones don't really stand a chance...
It's the one time that being a single issue voter actually makes sense...
 
Hope my neighbors get their state back. Legalizing pot by popular vote and passing more gun laws makes us nervous here in Nebraska. I hope there are enough conservatives in Colorado to get the gun grabbers and pot heads out of their government.
Hrmmm. Maybe if you didn't want to outlaw their pot, they could agree not to outlaw your magazines...

Just a thought.
 
The law will take effect this year, unless some judge not married to the Democratic Party Machine issues a stay order.

In the meantime, what do we do, put our suddenly-illegal guns and magazines in escrow somewhere?
Ship them to a gunsmith in a free state for cleaning/repair. If the law gets repealed or overturned, have them shipped back. If it doesn't, either move out of state or sell the guns on consignment. Either way you still own the guns, you just don't illegally possess them.
 
DR. Rob-

It is interesting seeing Colorado citizens saying the same thing we have been saying in Komiefornia for years. We get screwed out of darn near everything since manufacturers and shops refuse to sell to us even though its legal because they don't want the hassle.
 
Hrmmm. Maybe if you didn't want to outlaw their pot, they could agree not to outlaw your magazines...

Just a thought.
+1

I'll never understand the hypocrisy of "Don't tell me how to live my life, but I'll tell you how to live your life".
 
Hrmmm. Maybe if you didn't want to outlaw their pot, they could agree not to outlaw your magazines...

Just a thought.

Yep. People always wonder, "how can people vote for said politician?" Think about it: if you're a gay Coloradoan and want to get married- let's say you own guns, but legal recognition of your union is paramount to you- who are you going to vote for?

I think there are many liberals that don't have issues with guns, it's just that they have issues with everything else the Republican party supports. The fact is that the tide has turned on issues like gay marriage. A number of Republicans continually harp on that issue and so, when an issue like the second amendment comes up- which Republicans support- it becomes grouped with their support on other issues and receives an automatic negative reception.

Imagine if the Democratic party suddenly became pro-2a. I bet the number of people surveyed supporting an AWB would be in the single digits.
 
A minimum goal from Ted Harvey, Colorado State Senator:

"Give me two, or maybe just one more Republican Senator ..."
 
How can someone with the last name Coors NOT get elected in Colorado?

I hope the fine citizens of Colorado remember who voted for this stuff when they vote in the next election.

I also sent Hickenlooper an email, and told him if he signed off on this foolishness my next Elk or Mule Deer hunt would be in Arizona or New Mexico.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
By the way, Joe Coors was the one who ran ambled along against Hickenlooper last time around. (I thought it was amusing that both were beer brewers!)

The 2010 Colorado gubernatorial election was held on Tuesday, November 2, 2010 to elect the Governor of Colorado, who would serve a four-year term that began in January 2011. John Hickenlooper won the race with over 50% of the vote.[1] Incumbent Democratic Governor Bill Ritter announced that he would not run for re-election in 2010.[2] Dan Maes claimed the Republican nomination in the primary with 50.6% of the vote and a 1.3% margin over rival Scott McInnis. In claiming victory, Maes called on Constitution Party candidate and former Republican Congressman Tom Tancredo to "stop your campaign tonight." John Hickenlooper was unopposed for the Democratic nomination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_gubernatorial_election,_2010

It was an incredibly interesting race, but not because of anyone with the last name Coors.
 
Coors is a successful business leader of a large corporation. Many libertarian types equate that to being Adolf Hitler. Left leaning voters certainly also tend to view that alone as a mark against him.

It's just too easy to call a successful and wealthy man 'the bad guy'. Too many voters want a candidate as unsuccessful and incapable as themselves.
 
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