SleazyRider
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This just in: looks like the NUGE just called for a public hanging of the Boston Marathon Bomber. I'm thinkin' he probably wouldn't be a good choice.
Look how much hate there is for the NRA
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TheSaint
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My thoughts on the matter:
1. I've lived in San Franciso, Chicago, and some suburban areas in CA and IL to boot. Anti-gun-rights zealots are largely from urban areas. Having lived among that type of crowd, let me tell you, even having some of them as co-workers or friends..., um, yea. They have a MAJOR disdain for all things rural, or even suburbia. Their elitist mindset makes them believe that they truly are better than those backwater hicks that enjoy NASCAR, guns and drink beer instead of wine coolers. Until you've interacted with them on a daily basis, you really have no idea just how hate-filled some of these people really are. Tyrannically so, if you ask me. Case in point: Obama. Is there nothing about how that man talks, walks or even looks at other people like he isn't some type of god on earth who was sent here to rule the great unwashed masses?
2. I can't stand NASCAR, and it isn't a 'sport' in my book. A sport involves exercise to me. Also, going around in circles just bores me to tears. Give me rally racing or something with a bit of excitement. Nonetheless, I acknowledge that a large portion of middle-America loves NASCAR, so more power to them. It harms nobody, even if I think it is just plain silly. I much rather have a NASCAR neighbor who once he's done watching big boys go around in circles on the track, stop by my house and we can go out to the range together, compared to having some liberal elitist snob for a neighbor report me to the police because they saw me cleaning my handgun through the kitchen window.
3. NRA is smart in sponsoring NASCAR even I don't like the sport. It baited the anti-gun loonies into trying overt censorship. Sometimes these folks are their own worst enemies. If they were a bit more subtle, they'd be far more dangerous. Heck, I really don't like NASCAR, but as an act of defiance to these anti-freedom moonbats, I might watch a lap or two!
4. The NRA should continue to go on the offensive and spend as much money as they can take in to keep expanding their cultural reach. Training courses are good. Those new news videos are good that were linked to in another thread documenting in high-production value clips the anti-freedom agenda. Also, being more involved in things such as NASCAR allows the NRA not to just be "that organization that controls Washington" as it is so often painted by the MSM. The NRA needs to be increasingly a cultural force outside of its base, and to their credit, I think they're doing quite well at that.
5. I just signed up as a completely new Life Member of the NRA this last month. The $1000 I gave them was easily worth the smile on my face when I saw this:
1. I've lived in San Franciso, Chicago, and some suburban areas in CA and IL to boot. Anti-gun-rights zealots are largely from urban areas. Having lived among that type of crowd, let me tell you, even having some of them as co-workers or friends..., um, yea. They have a MAJOR disdain for all things rural, or even suburbia. Their elitist mindset makes them believe that they truly are better than those backwater hicks that enjoy NASCAR, guns and drink beer instead of wine coolers. Until you've interacted with them on a daily basis, you really have no idea just how hate-filled some of these people really are. Tyrannically so, if you ask me. Case in point: Obama. Is there nothing about how that man talks, walks or even looks at other people like he isn't some type of god on earth who was sent here to rule the great unwashed masses?
2. I can't stand NASCAR, and it isn't a 'sport' in my book. A sport involves exercise to me. Also, going around in circles just bores me to tears. Give me rally racing or something with a bit of excitement. Nonetheless, I acknowledge that a large portion of middle-America loves NASCAR, so more power to them. It harms nobody, even if I think it is just plain silly. I much rather have a NASCAR neighbor who once he's done watching big boys go around in circles on the track, stop by my house and we can go out to the range together, compared to having some liberal elitist snob for a neighbor report me to the police because they saw me cleaning my handgun through the kitchen window.
3. NRA is smart in sponsoring NASCAR even I don't like the sport. It baited the anti-gun loonies into trying overt censorship. Sometimes these folks are their own worst enemies. If they were a bit more subtle, they'd be far more dangerous. Heck, I really don't like NASCAR, but as an act of defiance to these anti-freedom moonbats, I might watch a lap or two!
4. The NRA should continue to go on the offensive and spend as much money as they can take in to keep expanding their cultural reach. Training courses are good. Those new news videos are good that were linked to in another thread documenting in high-production value clips the anti-freedom agenda. Also, being more involved in things such as NASCAR allows the NRA not to just be "that organization that controls Washington" as it is so often painted by the MSM. The NRA needs to be increasingly a cultural force outside of its base, and to their credit, I think they're doing quite well at that.
5. I just signed up as a completely new Life Member of the NRA this last month. The $1000 I gave them was easily worth the smile on my face when I saw this:
What happened to the first amendment, I'm sure this race was planned way before the legislators decided to hold their hearings. Why don't they just move their hearings if it bothers them so much. Why is it the gun people always are the ones who have to give in.
And better yet what does a race sponsor have to do with gun control.
See if this guy wants to pay for sponsoring the race. I don't watch NASCAR either but I would defend their right to sponsor whatever was good for our position.
And better yet what does a race sponsor have to do with gun control.
See if this guy wants to pay for sponsoring the race. I don't watch NASCAR either but I would defend their right to sponsor whatever was good for our position.
Blackstone
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Does this mean Obama should not be broadcast on TV because he's the face of one side of the gun debate?
TheSaint
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Personally, I think choosing Biden was so helpful for our cause. The man is truly a blithering idiot at times with some of the things he says. Honestly, his stupidity helps win over middle-of-the-road folks who can see the loon is lacking any sort of cogent thought up there at times.
I agree and have said that Obama knew this would fail from the beginning, that's why he put Joe in charge. This way he has deniability, he can say I put the vice president in charge and he couldn't get the job done.
He stays away from anything he thinks might not get through.
He stays away from anything he thinks might not get through.
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I disagree.
While Vice President Biden may make some really outlandish comments at times he is a VERY DANGEROUS politician.
He was very much a key player in the 1994 AWB.
If you underestimate Joe Biden you do so at your own peril.
Be Safe!
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While Vice President Biden may make some really outlandish comments at times he is a VERY DANGEROUS politician.
He was very much a key player in the 1994 AWB.
If you underestimate Joe Biden you do so at your own peril.
Be Safe!
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Michael Bane from Outdoor.tv talks about how gun owners are now the new Jews. They are working very hard to marginalize us and use us as scapegoats for terrorism and crime.
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/down-range-radio-311-are-gun-owners-the-new-underclass/21919/
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/down-range-radio-311-are-gun-owners-the-new-underclass/21919/
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larryh1108
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100% agree.
These same people are, unfortunately, the ones who run for public office as well. They want to be involved and make a difference. They want their ideals and opinions to permeate throughout the land. They feel they know better than we do what is best for us. When they move from the big cities to other areas they take their ideals with them and change the environment to their way of seeing things (See urban areas of pro-gun states). They are the ones who can't be swayed to our way of viewing things, constitutional or not. They don't care. We don't know what we are talking about because we aren't one of them. They wouldn't be caught dead socializing with one of them. The funny thing is they'd crap their pants if they knew one of 'them' was carrying. We blend in rather well. We are the eyes and ears of who they hate the most.
http://cqrcengage.com/smith-wesson/app/write-a-letter?0&engagementId=777, Hit this and let the representatives know we are watching what they do. And there are plenty of things that they can do right now instead of trying to disarm us. The link is from the S&W ad on the website, I just took the actual site and pasted it here.
By the way, the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds are grounded because of this Sequester nonsense, and Meals on wheels among hundreds of other things we all grew up with. This administration swore this would never happen, they are after the NRA, and we need to support them, so there is no doubt that we are behind them and what they are doing to help us keep our rights, weather it's sponsoring a race or Special Olympics show support and get through those people who would like to see us go away, that we aren't going any ware.
Make it crystal clear that we are not going to let off the gas on this, if I have to send them a letter every day it's a small price to pay for keeping the Constitution intact from those who would like to rewrite it, and have come out and said so publicly. Maybe I am a little old fashioned, but when I grew up that was treason.
By the way, the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds are grounded because of this Sequester nonsense, and Meals on wheels among hundreds of other things we all grew up with. This administration swore this would never happen, they are after the NRA, and we need to support them, so there is no doubt that we are behind them and what they are doing to help us keep our rights, weather it's sponsoring a race or Special Olympics show support and get through those people who would like to see us go away, that we aren't going any ware.
Make it crystal clear that we are not going to let off the gas on this, if I have to send them a letter every day it's a small price to pay for keeping the Constitution intact from those who would like to rewrite it, and have come out and said so publicly. Maybe I am a little old fashioned, but when I grew up that was treason.
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TheSaint
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@ larryh1108:
Good points. After knowing many gun owners, most of them are of the "you don't bother me, I don't bother you" mentality. While this is a good in principle, many anti-gunners are very activist minded. More pro-gun folks need to be involved with the fight, even if their natural inclination is more passive in nature. The other side isn't being passive, so we have to get our collective butts in gear.
Good points. After knowing many gun owners, most of them are of the "you don't bother me, I don't bother you" mentality. While this is a good in principle, many anti-gunners are very activist minded. More pro-gun folks need to be involved with the fight, even if their natural inclination is more passive in nature. The other side isn't being passive, so we have to get our collective butts in gear.
Marlin 45 carbine
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I agree - plinkers, hunters, target shooters need to make some noise now my. favorite shooting is black powder guns and some self-defense handguns.
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larryh1108
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Hopefully what has been happening will awaken the present generation to get active in politics. It seems that the pro-gun lobby isn't getting enough of the better minds to run for public office. The private sector does pay better but hopefully some new blood will infuse pride from our history and strong Constitutional values back into office. This has become red vs blue but there are too many red wafflers for my taste. If we pass immigration reform it will put between 11 and 20 million new voters of the blue persuasion in our voting ranks. I can't see one reason why any red vote would accept this knowing the cost.
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"At least they didn't call it the Bushmaster 223."
Hardly. They should have called it the Bushmaster 556.
Hardly. They should have called it the Bushmaster 556.
Kynoch
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That's VERY wrong. I want an NRA that's 30M members (not 5M) that can set policy rather than continually react to it.
TheSaint
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Totally agree with Kynoch. Look at he AARP. They have 40 million members who are active voters. Agree with their policy stances or not, they have HUGE clout on Capitol Hill. The NRA needs to focus the bulk of its spare change towards recruitment and getting new shooters into the gun ranges/classes. One of the main reasons why I joined the NRA this year as a first-time member is because I value their ability to go to a law-maker and say we now have 5,000,001 members instead of 5,000,000 a moment ago.
If everyone thinks like this and joins up, more and more politicians who are hateful towards guns or at least ambivalent will realize that gun grabbing legislation will kill them come reelection. We need to put the fear of god back in their hearts. Strength in numbers (heck even 10 million NRA members would be a very bold statement!) wins battles.
If everyone thinks like this and joins up, more and more politicians who are hateful towards guns or at least ambivalent will realize that gun grabbing legislation will kill them come reelection. We need to put the fear of god back in their hearts. Strength in numbers (heck even 10 million NRA members would be a very bold statement!) wins battles.
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larryh1108
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I also agree with getting the NRA numbers up to the 20 million range. The NRA has proved, with the recent bullying from the president, that they (we) are worth the small fee of $35 per year. Hopefully all of the old hardliners have realized that without the NRA, we would be up the creek without a paddle. We've also sold millions of new guns since Obama has been in office. Hopefully they realize that the NRA represents them as well. I say that every new gun purchase should have a free 1 year membership to the NRA (just mail in a card or go online and punch in a code to become a member). We need better marketers to get the numbers up. With numbers comes strength.
TheSaint
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Good point on all the new guns being sold. An excellent counter-point to those who would grab them. In the Obama economy, guns and the related gun accessory industries are one of the VERY FEW success stories in recent years.
Sobering thoughts:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-wealthy-keep-getting-wealthier-2013-4
Guns are keeping Americans employed. Period.
Sobering thoughts:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-wealthy-keep-getting-wealthier-2013-4
Guns are keeping Americans employed. Period.
splattergun
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Biden may be a fool, but he's a born iconoclast. He pulls down everybody's idols and sneers at what he cannot pull down,—our ideals.
TheSaint
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His snide behavior is motivation for me and thousands of others to continue to lobby even harder against him and his cohort. Iconoclast or not, the man drives me to work even harder against his trampling on the Constitution.
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