OilyPablo
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Yet nobody thought it was bad that the president herded kids on stage to push his gun control agenda in a Stalin like manner.
Exactly.
Yet nobody thought it was bad that the president herded kids on stage to push his gun control agenda in a Stalin like manner.
Yet nobody thought it was bad that the president herded kids on stage to push his gun control agenda in a Stalin like manner.
Im glad I never joined the NRA...it has too much with the gun maker lobby...there is a very dark, unappealing side to the shooter crowd that makes me cringe. Wayne is not a very good speaker. The NRA has sometimes showed a terrible image to middle America. There are too many gun-kooks out there and I keep them at arms length.
It has too much with the ... ? What did you just say? Are you talking about the NSSF? They're a great group as well, but not the same thing as the NRA. The NRA represents the U.S. citizen, while NSSF represents the shooting industry.Im glad I never joined the NRA...it has too much with the gun maker lobby
Ok, what do you mean by that, exactly though?...there is a very dark, unappealing side to the shooter crowd that makes me cringe.
He has his ups and downs. He's got a very multi-faceted job and appealing personally to the public at large is only part of it. However, a great many of us are looking forward to seeing Chirs Cox and other more ... personable? ... folks take an increasing role in the public view.Wayne is not a very good speaker.
Sometimes the fight requires a hard line to be drawn. Sometimes a more gentle approach can be taken. In politics, rarely are things said -- or things said the way they're said -- for completely transparent or simple reasons.The NRA has sometimes showed a terrible image to middle America.
LOL! Uh, you might have just stepped into a hornet's nest of them here! Might want to think about clarifying what's a "gun-kook" in your humble opinion.There are too many gun-kooks out there and I keep them at arms length.
Im glad I never joined the NRA...it has too much with the gun maker lobby...there is a very dark, unappealing side to the shooter crowd that makes me cringe. Wayne is not a very good speaker. The NRA has sometimes showed a terrible image to middle America. There are too many gun-kooks out there and I keep them at arms length.
I don't really know what constitutes a 'gun kook'?
Im glad I never joined the NRA...it has too much with the gun maker lobby...there is a very dark, unappealing side to the shooter crowd that makes me cringe. Wayne is not a very good speaker. The NRA has sometimes showed a terrible image to middle America. There are too many gun-kooks out there and I keep them at arms length.
Me thinks the poster mistakenly thinks he is on daily kos or the huffington post...
Let's be honest, we know there are 'gun kooks' out there, just like there are kooks in every hobby. I hear them talk at my gun club all the time about various conspiracy theories and how Obama is akin to Hitler and is a secret Muslim, etc, etc. Really the worst of the 'right wing'. I know you guys know what I'm talking about, these are the guys who bury spare AR15's in the woods in water-proof tubes because they actually think that the government is coming to take their guns by force.
He needs to do what he's good at behind the scenes. Let Colion Noir and others do it.
This is one of the common pro-control crowd's talking points. That the NRA is not representing gun owners, but rather gun makers. I have yet to see any evidence that this is truth. In addition to supporting firearms safety and the shooting sports, the NRA supprots the 2A and lobbies against restrictions on sale and ownerships of firearms. Sure, that benefits the gun industry, but it benefits the gun owners, too.Im glad I never joined the NRA...it has too much with the gun maker lobby
And what does this even mean? What dark, unappealing side? The "shooter crowd" is made up predominatly of people who want to use guns for hunting, recreation, and self defence. What is "dark and unappealing" about any of these activities? Its a media lie that the "gun crowd" is somehow made up of sociopathic fanatics who don't care about crime or violence as long as they can keep their dangerous, bloodthirsty toys....there is a very dark, unappealing side to the shooter crowd that makes me cringe.
Again, what does this even mean? I might agree that the NRA might do better in chosing their front man in terms of popular public appeal if that's your complaint. If you mean they need to appear more "concilliatory" on issues of new gun legislation to appeal to middle america, you are simply wrong. The gun control movement will never be satisfied by any "compromise" short of total disarmament of the civilian population. Every new attempt at gun control legistaltion must be fought tooth and nail, the issue allows no compromise.The NRA has sometimes showed a terrible image to middle America.
Again, you seem to be basing your opinions and actions on the lies and distortions of the popular media. All the gun owners I know are just normal everyday people; office workers, truck drivers, professionals, retirees and other regular people. They are not mass murderers waiting to go on a rampage.There are too many gun-kooks out there and I keep them at arms length.
The problem was, if we stressed our impressive and recent victories, members might cut back on their contributions, concluding the worst was behind us; however, if we constantly scared the living daylights out of them, they might feel we were always hitting them up for money and having little to show for it. Don't misunderstand me. It was a legitimate issue, but we were essentially determining how best to manipulate our members to gain a desired response, which was to get money. If we did it too often, it would lose its effectiveness; yet we knew from experience that if we touted our victories, we would not be rewarded with the all powerful American buck!
So a 'gun kook' or a 'gun nut' is a 'conspiracy theorist'. Well, that seems to be a little unfair to the real gun 'enthusiasts' out there, of which you seem to be one. My point is that people like to use the label 'gun kook' or 'gun nut' and slather it with some politically silly left/right nonsense, but a 'biker nut' or 'car nut' get's no such 'treatment'.
(For example, the NRA did not want DC v. Heller to make it to the SCOTUS; they wanted their own case to be tried in front of the SCOTUS because they didn't think the lawyer representing Heller could win.)
Im glad I never joined the NRA...it has too much with the gun maker lobby...there is a very dark, unappealing side to the shooter crowd that makes me cringe. Wayne is not a very good speaker. The NRA has sometimes showed a terrible image to middle America. There are too many gun-kooks out there and I keep them at arms length.
it has too much with the gun maker lobby
...there is a very dark, unappealing side to the shooter crowd that makes me cringe.
Wayne is not a very good speaker.
The NRA has sometimes showed a terrible image to middle America.
There are too many gun-kooks out there and I keep them at arms length.