Who makes .22LR semi-auto "pocket pistols?"

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Who makes a .22LR semi-auto "pocket pistols?" I'm not interested in the .25ACP -- I am looking for something in a .22LR.

Beretta makes the very well known 21A Bobcat in .22LR. Taurus makes the PT-22.

Anyone else? Thanks much.
 
current production would have to be the Beretta bobcat you've already mentioned. the walther TPH at $650+ is more than id pay for such an anemic caliber pocket gun.
 
"Anemic"? Ever been hit by a CCI Stinger?

no, but ive been stung by a bee, does that count?

to make you feel better, in this post I will refer to the .22lr from a mini gun as a powerhouse.
 
Ruger's SR22 is currently residing in my front pant pocket. Is it pocket pistol sized? certainly not! But it's thinner and lighter than my GLOCK27. Perfect for house carry.
 
"Anemic"? Ever been hit by a CCI Stinger?
must you go there? Really? Have you never seen a ".22 for defense" thread in nearly 700 posts? They generally go past post#3 before someone throws out "hurfadurf, you gunna stand infronta one?!?!?!!?"
And then everything goes downhill rapidly from there, leading to a lock and an admonition to use the search feature.

Personally, I understand that "armed with a .22lr mousegun" is far better than "left the .46AutoBlaster2000MegaKill Talo Edition at home" ... and I also understand that concealing a compact or subcompact modern pistol is pretty easy if you're willing to get good gear, so there is a middle ground.
And I agree that modern .22lr loads are in many ways superior to .25acp.

If I wanted a pocket gun in .22lr, I'd take my KelTec pf9 out of the cabinet and install the Twisted Industries .22lr upper, and I'd load it with CCI SGB, or velocitors, or stingers, or even minimags. Maybe one of the really hot Aguilia rounds (I can't recall testing those, but the CCI hunting loads work nicely in the conversion)
And I'd practice punching 3-5 holes in an 8" circle as fast as I could at 10 yards regularly (hey, that is how I use that kit to practice!)

... now, you're about to tell me that the pf9 converted to .22lr is too big (not really with the right pocket) and too expensive (not really, find a junker pf9 used and stick the upper on, you're at ~$450)
... ... And I'll counter with the fact that the pf9-22 is; reliable, comfortable to shoot, reliable, durable, reliable, convertible back to 9x19mm easily, and also reliable.

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Of course, to get to the pf9-22 in the cabinet, I'd have to pick up the KelTec p32 to get it out of the way, and it would probably be easier to grab that and three loaded mags and drop those into my pockets instead.

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I have heard good and bad about the Raven/Jennings/Bryco .22lr guns. Some users report that they run surprisingly well if clean and with the right ammo, some users report that after extensive testing the ring-o-fire guns do not, in fact, float.

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The Walther P22 is nearly pocket sized, mine isn't reliable enough to use for defensive purposes

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The Walther TPH is expensive and hard to come by, and reports on reliability are hit&miss

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The beretta guns look like nice toys, I actually want a Minx in .22short just for giggles. Theyre heavy and thick compared to some centerfire pocket guns, though, and lacking an extractor claw, how do you get a dud out of the chamber? In a hurry?
 
Though ridiculously heavy, complicated by two manual safeties and three passive safeties, and a single-action, the Phoenix HP22A is "pocket-capable", and is surprisingly reliable and accurate for its price point.

I also own the Taurus already mentioned, and am pleased with it. Don't forget that Taurus also makes a polymer-framed version of it, called the PLY-22.

The Jennings centerfire guns are horrendous and typically fragile and unreliable, but their J-22 rimfire is pretty slim, and far better a shooter than those bigger guns they make. It is, however, a single-action, striker-fired gun.
 
All that I am aware of have been mentioned. NAA makes a tiny revolver in .22 (not an auto, I know) which is nice.

In the auto world I think I would go with the Beretta.

I do wonder why someone hasn't make a smaller/thinner auto in .22. The Beretta and it's clones have been around a long time with little change. I carried a Beretta as a back up in the early 90's when there were much fewer options (Seecamp was about it IIRC). The Beretta can be a bit ammo picky, as many .22's are. Feed it what it likes (Stingers for mine) and it runs well.
 
ballistically the .22lr and .25acp from a mini auto are about the same. the only advantages are the centerfire is more reliable than a rimfire, and the rimfire is cheaper to shoot than the centerfire.

do the math(.22lr) 32gr. x 950x950fps divided by 450436.
(.25acp) 45gr. x 825x825fps divided by 450436
 
Depends how big your pockets are....and also no longer in production, but the S&W 2213/2214 are pretty small pistols.
Mine was an accurate and reliable little thing.
 
Bigfatdave nice post I learned something new today
"If I wanted a pocket gun in .22lr, I'd take my KelTec pf9 out of the cabinet and install the Twisted Industries .22lr upper, and I'd load it with CCI SGB, or velocitors, or stingers, or even minimags. Maybe one of the really hot Aguilia rounds (I can't recall testing those, but the CCI hunting loads work nicely in the conversion)"
 
You're welcome

The T.I. conversions are very good quality, and allow much more pleasant practice with the pf9's trigger, grip, sights, etc.
Then you put it back together as a 9x19 and remind yourself about recoil.
 
My Taurus PLY-22 is a great little pistol, as is my Beretta 21a, but both can be a little fussy at times. Wrench mentioned it first, and hit on a good one. I recently obtained a S&W 2213, and I am in love with it. I have fired 360 perfect rounds so far, and thats with 5 different brands of ammo. It simply has no indication its ever going to jam, its that smooth. It is bigger than the Taurus and Beretta, but is still "pocketable". It has real sights, and locks open on an empty magazine. They are mostly aluminum, and reasonably light. The standard magazine is 8 rounds. The cool thing... they can use the 12 round magazine from the larger 422/622 series. Its easily suppressed, as it comes from the factory with a threaded barrel. All you need is an adapter that replaces the barrel nut. The 2213 is silver, 2214 is black. Look for one of these, as they are excellent.

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The 2213 is silver, 2214 is black. Look for one of these, as they are excellent.

Got a 2214 here and I would agree that out of all the 22LR pistols you mentioned, it is the most reliable and accurate.

If you can find one, buy it.
 
When Ruger asked for new gun suggestions, I asked them to make an LCP in 22lr. I'm still waiting.
 
must you go there? Really? Have you never seen a ".22 for defense" thread in nearly 700 posts? They generally go past post#3 before someone throws out "hurfadurf, you gunna stand infronta one?!?!?!!?"
And then everything goes downhill rapidly from there, leading to a lock and an admonition to use the search feature.


Personally, I understand that "armed with a .22lr mousegun" is far better than "left the .46AutoBlaster2000MegaKill Talo Edition at home" ... and I also understand that concealing a compact or subcompact modern pistol is pretty easy if you're willing to get good gear, so there is a middle ground.
And I agree that modern .22lr loads are in many ways superior to .25acp.

If I wanted a pocket gun in .22lr, I'd take my KelTec pf9 out of the cabinet and install the Twisted Industries .22lr upper, and I'd load it with CCI SGB, or velocitors, or stingers, or even minimags. Maybe one of the really hot Aguilia rounds (I can't recall testing those, but the CCI hunting loads work nicely in the conversion)
And I'd practice punching 3-5 holes in an 8" circle as fast as I could at 10 yards regularly (hey, that is how I use that kit to practice!)

... now, you're about to tell me that the pf9 converted to .22lr is too big (not really with the right pocket) and too expensive (not really, find a junker pf9 used and stick the upper on, you're at ~$450)
... ... And I'll counter with the fact that the pf9-22 is; reliable, comfortable to shoot, reliable, durable, reliable, convertible back to 9x19mm easily, and also reliable.

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Of course, to get to the pf9-22 in the cabinet, I'd have to pick up the KelTec p32 to get it out of the way, and it would probably be easier to grab that and three loaded mags and drop those into my pockets instead.

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I have heard good and bad about the Raven/Jennings/Bryco .22lr guns. Some users report that they run surprisingly well if clean and with the right ammo, some users report that after extensive testing the ring-o-fire guns do not, in fact, float.

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The Walther P22 is nearly pocket sized, mine isn't reliable enough to use for defensive purposes

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The Walther TPH is expensive and hard to come by, and reports on reliability are hit&miss

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The beretta guns look like nice toys, I actually want a Minx in .22short just for giggles. Theyre heavy and thick compared to some centerfire pocket guns, though, and lacking an extractor claw, how do you get a dud out of the chamber? In a hurry?

What's the reason for the above post? Was it to make you feel good about yourself? It certainly didn't answer my question. I didn't mention anything about "defense" in my original posting. Please don't suggest I did.
 
My Taurus PLY-22 is a great little pistol, as is my Beretta 21a, but both can be a little fussy at times. Wrench mentioned it first, and hit on a good one. I recently obtained a S&W 2213, and I am in love with it. I have fired 360 perfect rounds so far, and thats with 5 different brands of ammo. It simply has no indication its ever going to jam, its that smooth. It is bigger than the Taurus and Beretta, but is still "pocketable". It has real sights, and locks open on an empty magazine. They are mostly aluminum, and reasonably light. The standard magazine is 8 rounds. The cool thing... they can use the 12 round magazine from the larger 422/622 series. Its easily suppressed, as it comes from the factory with a threaded barrel. All you need is an adapter that replaces the barrel nut. The 2213 is silver, 2214 is black. Look for one of these, as they are excellent.

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Thanks, I appreciate the input.
 
I answered your question quite thoroughly, you're welcome.

And I suggest you review post#3 before getting huffy about who did or didn't raise the subject of using the proposed gun on two-legged critters.
 
weblance, i've seen a few of the 2213 in .22powerhouse on Gun-Broker. they're running a little over $300 this is something i'd like to look at, I've never considered this gun. are they still made or are they another short live S&W venture?
 
weblance, i've seen a few of the 2213 in .22powerhouse on Gun-Broker. they're running a little over $300 this is something i'd like to look at, I've never considered this gun. are they still made or are they another short live S&W venture?

Out of production for some time now. They were around for a while in the 90s, and the smaller ones longer than that as a slightly different models. The full size guns use model 41 magazines.

I've owned the 2206 before and it was a great gun and have a 622 now. Everything I've ever read about the 2213/2214 has been good, with the same caveat all 22's have; they can be quite ammo sensitive.
 
ok so theyre no longer made...explains why I haven't seen any in my LGS......
S&W made a gun that seems to be what a lot of folks want, then discontinue it? was it a poor seller because of high price or bad performance? is there a modern current production S&W .22powerhouse equivalent to the 2213?
 
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