Arrested for reporting a MWAG....

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NavyLCDR said:
Maybe you should know the history behind that photo?
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Thanks for the story behind that photo. Though I was mostly using that image because of how he is carrying a long gun in public, not why he is doing it.

And my question still stands: How does a person distinguish between carrying and brandishing of a long gun? (This is a sincere question that I truely do not know the answer to, btw)
 
How does a person distinguish between carrying and brandishing of a long gun? (This is a sincere question that I truely do not know the answer to, btw)
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Most juristictions define it along the lines of carrying, displaying, or drawing a firearm in a way that may alarm or threaten others.

From this story we clearly can't always go by that definition since some people would be alarmed by the mere idea of you owning a firearm, much less carrying it with you in any way.

I'd say my definition for both pistols and long guns, if you're out in public, if it's in your hand, you're brandishing. So get a holster and a sling.
 
And I thought MWAG was a male WAG :p

WAGs (or Wags) is an acronym, used particularly by the British tabloid press, to describe the wives and girlfriends of high-profile footballers, originally the England national football team.
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bracer said:
You all who have a Concealed gun should keep it Concealed. The person who let his gun be shown or seen should be in jail. The only time the gun should become visible to others is when the gun is needed to protect yourself or others. I have hand guns for hunting, target shooting, and short barreled guns. I do not have the right to alarm or scare people by mishandling firearms in public -- Do you think you have that right ???
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Are you kidding me?
 
I tend to agree with bracer about not letting firearms be seen in public. Just because one has the "right", doesnt mean its the wisest thing to do.
Most here should know that the anti-gun faction will twist the facts around to suit them, no matter what, and how does anyone prove those facts wrong when the anti-gun crowd looks for and wants to believe the worst about situations like that?
As for the posted photo of an individual carrying a shotgun at low ready, posting such a photo anywhere is the most irresponsible thing i've ever seen, for this reason, Again, the anti_gun crowd can use that as evidence ALL gun owners are irresponsible. They can assign claims to any scenerio they want, claim its anywhere, with any result and make gun owners look bad. Once an inaccurate story gets started regarding such, there are people who will believe it as gospel and nothing will convince them of the actual truth, so why give the anti-gunners any more ammunition against us?
Sad to say in some of the responses, I see alot of radical "its my right and i'll do what i want regardless of the consequences" attitudes, and those attitudes will just hurt us in the long run.
so........if you feel the need bash away, but think about whats best for gun owners in general rather than yourself in particular.
 
You all who have a Concealed gun should keep it Concealed. The person who let his gun be shown or seen should be in jail. The only time the gun should become visible to others is when the gun is needed to protect yourself or others. I have hand guns for hunting, target shooting, and short barreled guns. I do not have the right to alarm or scare people by mishandling firearms in public -- Do you think you have that right ???
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What if you live in a state that doesn't have concealed permits? Here in Tennessee we have a "handgun carry permit" that allows us to carry open or concealed. Do you choose to not educate yourself about things before you post or are you just a troll?
 
spottedpony said:
I tend to agree with bracer about not letting firearms be seen in public. Just because one has the "right", doesnt mean its the wisest thing to do.

but think about whats best for gun owners in general rather than yourself in particular.
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I won't carry my gun in any specific way just because you or bracer feel it is best for gun owners in general. I carry my gun in the way that I feel is the most effective way to protect myself and my family from violent crime. For me, in the locations that I am usually in, I have determined that way is in a holster on my belt visible for all to see. Where I live there is much more chance it will simply deter someone who might be thinking of committing a violent act against me or my family with me, which is of much greater benefit to me than the "element of surprise" quick-draw response that concealed carry requires. If you feel the need - bash away...but to be honest, it is all about me and my family.
 
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but to be honest, it is all about me and my family.
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As it should be, however a "responsible" person would evaluate a potentially dangerous situation and try to avoid an element that would create a danger scenerio beforehand.

You will note also, i didnt condemn the action, my condemnation was of use of a particular photograph that could be misused by an anti-gun faction and that there would be no way to correct all misbeliefs the use of said photo would create.
my assessment stands.
 
Another discussion on open vs concealed again? Is it that time of the week already?

Open or concealed is a preference, nothing more. This could go on and on for several pages (and has) about which is better. Personally I think concealed is better and will argue against the effectiveness and tactical disadvantages of open carry. But that doesn't mean I am going to outright condemn someone for open carrying, because it is a choice. The difference between us and antis is we talk things over (usually) in a calm and logical manner. We share ideas and not try to fear monger people into our side. keep calm and CARRY on, open or concealed. As long as it is legal for you to do so.
 
spottedpony said:
As it should be, however a "responsible" person would evaluate a potentially dangerous situation and try to avoid an element that would create a danger scenerio beforehand.

You will note also, i didnt condemn the action, my condemnation was of use of a particular photograph that could be misused by an anti-gun faction and that there would be no way to correct all misbeliefs the use of said photo would create.
my assessment stands.
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You stated, "I tend to agree with bracer about not letting firearms be seen in public." Bracer posted this about letting firearms be seen in public:
"You all who have a Concealed gun should keep it Concealed. The person who let his gun be shown or seen should be in jail. The only time the gun should become visible to others is when the gun is needed to protect yourself or others. I have hand guns for hunting, target shooting, and short barreled guns. I do not have the right to alarm or scare people by mishandling firearms in public -- Do you think you have that right ???"

That sounds pretty condemning of the action to me
 
I hate to be the one to say this but the way you come off to you anyone who isn't open carrying a SAW is condemning of the action
 
When I worked armored car courier back in college, I walked into the bank OCing all the time...
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We have no open carry in my state. One day, I stopped by Walmart to pick up some pool chemicals. There was an armored car parked out front, with two of the personnel standing my the vehicle chatting as I walked my them, into the store. I passed a couple of more people and made my way to the wall on the south side of the store, where the pool chemicals were. At that point, to my horror, I noticed that my shirt was not covering my carry piece but had become tucked behind it when I was in the car, exposing it. That I walked right past two armored car personnel that way doesn't say much for their situational awareness. Or that of the other people I passed (but that is not as surprising). I've since learned to be more careful.
 
spottedpony said:
I tend to agree with bracer about not letting firearms be seen in public. Just because one has the "right", doesnt mean its the wisest thing to do.
Most here should know that the anti-gun faction will twist the facts around to suit them, no matter what, and how does anyone prove those facts wrong when the anti-gun crowd looks for and wants to believe the worst about situations like that?
As for the posted photo of an individual carrying a shotgun at low ready, posting such a photo anywhere is the most irresponsible thing i've ever seen, for this reason, Again, the anti_gun crowd can use that as evidence ALL gun owners are irresponsible. They can assign claims to any scenerio they want, claim its anywhere, with any result and make gun owners look bad. Once an inaccurate story gets started regarding such, there are people who will believe it as gospel and nothing will convince them of the actual truth, so why give the anti-gunners any more ammunition against us?
Sad to say in some of the responses, I see alot of radical "its my right and i'll do what i want regardless of the consequences" attitudes, and those attitudes will just hurt us in the long run.
so........if you feel the need bash away, but think about whats best for gun owners in general rather than yourself in particular.
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No.
 
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