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I am just realizing what might have happened from something that happened to me recently, and I am a little shaken. I was trimming a batch of 357 Magnum brass, and my Lee trimmer wouldn't go into a case.

I looked, and there was something funny inside! I got my dental pick, and dislodged it...there was a really misshapen piece of brass inside the case!. :confused:

It appeared to be a piece of small centerfire pistol brass, probably a rimless 25 caliber.
"Passing strange", sez I. I don't have a .25 caliber handgun and have never had .25 caliber brass on my bench.

It turned out it was a really misshapen piece of .22 Long Rifle brass that had somehow gotten inside the 357 Magnum! The case was expanded by the sizing and decap stage, and the decapping pin punched a hole in the case head!
THANK YOU, strong Winchester brass and Smith & Wesson handgun!:)

Although I take what I thought were sufficient measures to keep my trash brass separate from reloadable stuff, somehow, It had gotten inside one of the e57 brass. Fortunately for me, I hadn't loaded and fired the round without noticing anything.

I will now invert each and every piece of brass, and rap it on the bench before I load it! Once in a lifetime is enough!

Maybe my experience will help someone else...NEVER get complacent, and check everything twice, even if you have been handloading since Adam was a teen-ager!
 
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Are you trying to tell us you loaded a .357 Magnum round with a spent 22LR case inside the .357 case? If so, you didn't see it when inspecting your case before loading?
 
wait... you mean im suposed to look at cases before loading them? i knew i was doing something wrong...

really though. Thats nuts! pictures of brass?
 
Set up an account at some picture hosting site, upload your image to them, then post the link. I use Imageshack.us, but I don't remember why I chose them several years ago.
 
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.45 Colt cases are even worse, you can hide a small home in there.

The pressure of the Magnum load had expanded the .22 brass to fill the inside dimensions of the 357 case, so it appeared to be a rimless case!
That's kind of neat. Pics would be cool. Curious minds and all that. :)
 
Here is my "Fireformed" brass!:eek: Wow! that was much easier than the last time I tried! Click to enlarge. Thanx, moderator! :)
 

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:) No problem.

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Thats not what happened. That case is torn from the mouth down and has a round hole. It went through a 357 resizing, that expanded it and poked a hole in the bottom. I have done it with 45colt brass that had a 9mm in it. If it would have went through a firing process it would not have expanded half itself and cut a perfect hole in the bottom, it would have blown right out the end of the barrel.
 
I agree. Those marks are consistent with depriming and sizing. You have a small hole where the deprimer poked thru and one side of the .22 has been crunched/sliced/sheared down. If it were in there when fired, I dont think it would still have been in there. Everything else that was there left in one direction, real fast.

BUT good thing you caught it! I had a bunnyfart after about 3000 loads for my .45acp. Really makes you slow down and look at EVERY powder charge before you cap with a boolit!

be safe.
 
O.K. Thanks, Sauer 1911 and ljnowell!

That sounds better and more likely than my scenario, anyhow.
I don't recall any massive extra effort during resizing, but it is a relief to know I probably didn't fire the gun with that sort of a blockage, which is why the case doesn't look burned by the powder charge!
Still a good lesson for me!

I learn something new every day! :)
 
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I've done this a couple times, usually when a stinkin 22 case is lodged in the case with either media/dirt/gravel. It takes a real good bit of force to send your decapping pin through the 22 case head... When something feels funny or takes 4 times the force than usual, its time to lower the ram and check things out. I hardly look at pistol brass, I can hear 90% of the split cases and pick em out before they reach the tumbler and the other 10% you can feel in the expander die.
 
I was sorting some brass just a couple nights ago and had something similar. I was a 32 ACP case inside a 357 mag case. It was in, luckily, mouth first, so it was easy to notice the head a little bit down the case. Took a couple of taps to get it to slide out.
So, yeah, we have to keep an eye out for nested cases.
 
I am happy you are ok. This will serve again as a reminder for me to be careful. Thanks for sharing.

Also, I would ignore the people who are somehow using this as an excuse to be cocky and arrogant.
 
I got a bag of .40 S&W brass from a lady in Wyoming earlier this year. When I went to sort it out I found a 9mm that was inside a .40 S&W that had been resized.
 

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