what scope for 22 rimfire target

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solman

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Hi All,
I have been on a .22 rimfire kick since I got my CZ 452. I have been using the irons with good results at 25 yds. but at 50 yards I can't see the targets too well. This is due to my aging eyes. I wanted to try for real tight groups at 50 and maybe 100 yards on a small bore target. What power scope is called for. I think I read somewhere that some use up to a 36 power scope for this. Sounds like a bit too much but I figure to ask here and get a consensus.
 
We use the Weaver T36 for smallbore benchrest.

If you need something cheaper, the Mueller Target Scope is really nice at 8x32 variable.

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I wanted to try for real tight groups at 50 and maybe 100 yards on a small bore target.
Not less than about 24X with an appropriately fine reticle if you want to shoot your best possible groups.
 
I have 2 22's that are pretty accurate...the Remington 541S has a 10X,the Savage MkII has a 12X,both Leupolds.I get along ok with these,and can still use them ok for plinking or pest control.If I had one 22 that was a dedicated bench shooter,it would have a 24 or 36X.If I were to use one mostly for hunting,I'd go with a variable with an AO.
 
3-9x is definitely not adequate for small-group shooting at 50 yards.
 
I put a mueller apv on mine. it's a 14x. They're popular over on rimfire central and I have no complaints. I can put 5 rounds of wolf match on a dime at 50 no problem. And I am not a good shot.

and it's 130 bucks.
 
Mueller apv here too... nice scope for a 22... its on my br shooter.... I'm going to start a new build for lightweight and squirrel hunting so I'm think about a 2-7x32
 
Now come on here, the 452 is no Anschutz Heavy barrel, I am well aware some of the upper end Savage and Remington Heavy barrel have triggers and barrels that get good groups , but they don't win real matches do they? I've have not see any 452s at NRA type matches where T36 scopes rule the specialized non field use! An adjustable objective 9x is all you need for 100 yards and at 50 a quarter looks big thru one.For game work like squirrels 2-6x is where it's at , rabbits less, ground squirrels up to 12x, maybe!
 
I shot .22 benchrest for a number of years, got out and have now gotten back in again. I attended a lot of matches at the local level and shot in state and national matches. A 36X scope in the heavy gun class was/is the predominate power scope used. There are some shooters using 40X scopes in these competitions now. Reason being for such high power is because these guys are concerned about a tenth of an inch accuracy and you need that much power to clearly see the target so they know where to aim in order to compensate for wind and other factors that affect the bullet. A Weaver or Sightron scope will run in the $400 range new, a bit less used. A new Leupold will cost significantly more but used Leupold 36X scopes can be found for $500 to $600. Depending on how much you want to shoot tiny groups will depend on what you want to spend on a scope.
 
For target use only, no hunting, with open sights, I would try a set of BRNO sights. They are the knees on the bees.......
 
solman:

I used a Leupold 4X. I bought a Mueller 4.5-14 for my niece's .22LR. If I really wanted to get crazy, I have a Nightforce 12-42X56 target scope. :cool:

Now, to what I wanted to post about your aging eyes (and mine). Back in about 1996, I met a WW I vet named John. He went to the range every day, at his youthful 90-something years young. He taught me to place a make a pinhole in small piece of black electrical tape, and secure that tape on my glasses lens. It will make your eyes function like they're 16 again. :D It's the same function as using a target peep sight. It just plain works. :D

Give it a try and let us know how it works for you.

Geno
 
A 24 to 36 power scope for most paper work. Here is the rub; trying to hold a higher power scope steady is hard... fact of life. One quickly gets used to doing so with practice, and usually prefers one or the other. Old school .22 LR scopes for 25 yards were between 4 and 12 power, and work well for that range, and for dual purposes like hunting. I have a 6 x 24 and it will do most everything well knowing how it works. It cost a little over 200 clams...

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He taught me to place a make a pinhole in small piece of black electrical tape, and secure that tape on my glasses lens.

That is essentially what a Merit device does, without the sticky residue. Second link, post #11.
 
I agree that high-power is required to tigheten groups at 50 yards.

I find that I can shoot 3/4" groups at 50 yards with a 3-9x40, and use a Nikon Target EFR with AO like the one Arch linked to above, (mounted to my CZ 455 American or my modified 10/22 LVT) but if I wanted to even attempt to get groups like the target tuj posted above at 50 yards, there is no way with a 3-9 power scope - at least not for me. MAYBE at 25 yards, and probably not consistently.

So, if 1/4" groups at 50+ yards is your thing, I would not go lower than 18-20 power. At 100 yards, I'd go even higher.
 
A 452 is not gonna shoot groups like tuj posted consistently regardless of what power scope you stick on it.
 
Some very good suggestions on this thread for me to consider.
Viking499; I thought about the BRNO sights for the CZ but I cannot seem to find a source right now. There is a fellow mentioned on rimfire forum (Denny I believe is his name) but after two weeks I have not gotten any response from him.
I was not aware of the Merit device, might be worth a look... no pun intended
 
I shoot at targets with all sorts of scopes - Leupold EFRs, the little 3x-9 and the 6.5x20, various Weavers up to 24x, etc. I keep the little EFR on a Cooper Custom Classic most of the time.

But for actually target shooting, I like my two T-36s. I still can't decide if I like the target dot better than the fine x-hair.

I said all that just to have an excuse to post a pic of my CZ-452 American with a silver T-36 on it. :)

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It's a .22 WMR, it needs a big scope. :)
 
Very nice, JohnBT. T36 and a 452 American = FUN I'm sure. I have a 6-24 on my 22LR American and tend to leave it on 24x. I can imagine that another 12x would be great at the range.
 
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