NFL Anti Second Amendment

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http://finance.townhall.com/columni...rg-on-gun-owners-n1754731?utm_source=facebook

"After having banned concealed carry in all of their stadiums, and even ordering women to give up their purse in favor of see-through plastic bags, (don’t ya feel safer now?) the NFL has accelerated its war on gun ownership and the Second Amendment by trampling on the First Amendment. The League has refused to air a commercial for Daniel Defense in the 2014 Super Bowl on grounds that the weapons manufacturer violates the NFL regulations for “prohibited advertising categories”. Their rejection, however, appears rooted in political activism, rather than strict adherence to long standing advertising rules. "

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Wouldn't say that's 'Anti Second Amendment', that's potentially protecting fans from potential harm, whether that's a firearm or any other sort of weapon.
 
Professional sports are a tool for social control and pacification of the masses.Panem et circenses.
The NFL is a tool that our Masters use to maintain the status quo though the dissipation of not only capital, but through the dissipation of the very will of the people.
Of course the NFL is anti-gun. Why wouldn't it be? An armed populace isn't conducive to the Statist agenda and the NFL is going to espouse whatever philosophical or political stance the government tells it to.
 
If I owned a stadium, I would not want folks carrying inside during a game either. I would have plenty of competent armed guards on hand, but between the alcohol etc, I would rather folks did not bring guns in. People should feel relatively well protected while coming in from the parking lot, watching the game, and getting back to their cars.

Does that make me an anti?

I would be absolutely shocked if a big organization like the NFL would do anything pro gun. I am just glad they are not openly/actively anti gun, not withstanding Bob Costas rant. Airing gun ads would be seen as pro gun. They want to remain neutral, as best they can, erring on the side of politically correct.

Show me where they make big contributions to anti gun organizations, and then I'll say yea, they are anti.

the NFL has accelerated its war on gun ownership and the Second Amendment by trampling on the First Amendment. The League has refused to air a commercial for Daniel Defense in the 2014 Super Bowl
Refusing to air an ad is a far cry from "accelerated its war on gun ownership and the Second Amendment by trampling on the First Amendment".

AFAICT they are a relatively non factor in the war on guns.

A lot more background is needed
. Yep, that's the short version.
 
I wouldn't say there were so much anti 2A as they are anti- gun. Geez, just look at the last few years. Aaron Hernandez....Sean Taylor.....Javon Belcher....
 
While I agree with the OP's assertions, the other posts make good points.

That being said, look at the mayhem caused, without firearms, at rugby and soccer matches all over the world.
:rolleyes:
 
Legal Obligation to Protect

Since the NFL denies people their right to carry on their premises, does that make them liable to anyone there who is injured or killed, unable to defend themselves?
 
Did anybody else see Bob costas's speech about gun control on MNF after the Sandy hook shooting? He doesn't work for the NFL but nbc was obviously ok with what he had to say, and nbc sort of represents the NFL with their broadcasts.
 
Geez, just look at the last few years. Aaron Hernandez....Sean Taylor.....Javon Belcher....

Also the guy in the night club, did he get caught with an illegal gun, or shot himself accidentally, I can't recall? Plaxico Burress was it, a few years back?
Also the Ray Lewis debacle (I think that was a stabbing)...

Sam Cade's comment is a little over the top IMO (post number 4). No offense intended, i would never be surprised about anything but
I think they would just like to distance themselves from the African American thug gang banging stereotype as much as anything. Maybe Im in the dark.
 
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I turn Bob Costas off, can't stand to listen to him. That said, I watch the NFL from the comfort of my living room, I do have rules, no making bullets or handling guns after booze.
 
If I owned a stadium, I would not want folks carrying inside during a game either. I would have plenty of competent armed guards on hand, but between the alcohol etc, I would rather folks did not bring guns in


I could see how someone could think that they may need their gun with all of those drunks though.

I saw quite a few get maced one night at a Bama game. Pepper spray is quite effective!
 
Since the NFL denies people their right to carry on their premises, does that make them liable to anyone there who is injured or killed, unable to defend themselves?
Can you point to s single instance inside a NFL stadium where someone was injured or killed and it could have been prevented with a gun. Can you source just one? At any stadium?

The "they are liable for not letting me carry" argument is strange to say the least in this type of case. If you owned a 80,000 seat arena which do you think would be more probable to happen that would cause you to be sued. Not letting people carry and someone sues or let people carry and have an idiot have a ND? Answer honestly.

I don't know how many of you have been to big time stadiums, but I have been to most SEC stadiums and go to 7-8 college games a year. When the game is over it is a bottle neck getting out. A massive amount of people leaving a small space or gate. If someone was to discharge a gun you would have a stampede and many injuries.

Liable works both ways
 
Walkalong Wrote :
Does that make me an anti?

In a way it does, in my opinion anyway (whatever it's worth) Where else do you not trust your fellow american citizens to be armed ?

To me it's a right by birth to be able to protect myself no matter where I go in places that are open to the public. If that is too radical a concept, then I guess I am just off the mainstream path.
 
i still haven't figured out why to spend 50+ dollars to go to a game(haven't been to one do just assuming on the price). i watch less and less football each year. i have better things to spend my money and timer on. fishing hunting shooting come to mind.

if you don't like what they are doing don't support them.
 
Same Kade said:
Professional sports are a tool for social control and pacification of the masses.Panem et circenses.
The NFL is a tool that our Masters use to maintain the status quo though the dissipation of not only capital, but through the dissipation of the very will of the people.
Of course the NFL is anti-gun. Why wouldn't it be? An armed populace isn't conducive to the Statist agenda and the NFL is going to espouse whatever philosophical or political stance the government tells it to.

Interesting that mod would be able to mention this. Former KGB agents talked about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
 
Concerning the original post, It is their venue and their event, therefore their choice to disallow concealed carry or whatever else they deem unfavorable. They know where the majority of their money and support comes from and make decisions accordingly; just like any other successful enterprise. I am a CHL holder and avoid as many of these types of places as reasonably possible. I have never understood the lure of professional sports myself. I would much rather be doing something myself rather than watch someone else get paid millions to do it while I support their income. I always laugh when I see someone with a sports team or band name tattooed on themselves. I also couldn't agree more with Sam Cade:
Professional sports are a tool for social control and pacification of the masses.Panem et circenses.
The NFL is a tool that our Masters use to maintain the status quo though the dissipation of not only capital, but through the dissipation of the very will of the people.
 
@MNRIVRAT

"To me it's a right by birth to be able to protect myself no matter where I go in places that are open to the public"

well - a NFL stadium is private property and they can very well tell you not to carry. their property. their rights.

I can also tell you NOT to stage a demonstration/protest/speech or debate on my land. and that has nothing to do with 1A either. :rolleyes:

anybody who thinks 80,000 people in a densely packed stadium with limited emergency exits are safer because a few hundred people would pack heat are delusional ... and as stated before: please cite ONE fatality or severe injury inside a NFL stadium which could have been prevented with guns. Heck - I guess we should be allowed to carry on commercial flights as well...
 
This goes further than remaining neutral, or even being politically correct. The left is doing what they can to snatch up large organizations considered wholesome american pasttimes with huge media coverage. Eventually they can marginalize the shooting sports a little more every year. I never watched an NFL game, and I never will.

Don't make excuses for the NFL, they made their bed and now they have to sleep in it.
Yes, they're on private property. But they're also a business, and many in the 2a community refuse to spend their money at such establishments for such reasons as prohibiting CCW, and taking an anti-2a stance.

Very sad to see folks on our own forum start turning on their own. You were granted the very same 2nd amendment right as those you look down upon, not because you're special but because you are a common citizen.
 
Ya 60000 armed, half drunk fans all charged up from watching opposing teams pound on each other, what could go wrong??

As others have pointed out the amount of people around and the shape of the building makes even a ND extra dangerous.
 
" by trampling on the First Amendment"


Is the NFL now part of the government now?

<sigh>


People who want to stand on "rights" ought to have at least a survey level understanding of the Constitution and the rights articulated in it. More to the point that those rights can be ignored by anyone at all other than the Government.

As to the NFL... <yawn>... it's their game, their business, and they can run it any way they like. Similarly we, as consumers, can behave towards it any way we like, and by extension behave towards it's advertisers any way we like.


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