gonoles_1980
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I bought 500 .357 bass cases a while back. I've been running them through the sizing die first. Am I wasting my time doing this?
A few years ago I was on the panel of a reloading seminar at an NRA annul convention. About 250 members were in the audience and during the Q&A discussion someone asked about sizing new rifle brass. I responded to the question with another question, asking the audience how many handloaders there knew the actual dimensions of their resizing dies. No hands were raised. I then asked how many simply knew the diameter of the expander buttons in their sizing dies. This time about a dozen hands went up. By then the audience were beginning recognize the point of my query. That being, why would you presume that your loading die(s) is more dimensionally exact than new cases? When in fact, as I had previously determined by testing and measuring, that there is surprising wide variation in dimensions not only between different reloading die manufacturers, but even from lot to lot by same maker. Meaning, in effect, that all too often we assume our loading dies to be correct without any real knowledge that they are. My own professional experience examining ammo, components and tooling, plus that of the professionals in the firm where I work (Now part time) has demonstrated that there is high probability that new cartridge cases will be more within dimensional parameters than will the average sizing die. The bottom line being that unless you are certain about the internal dimensions of a sizing die you are essentially plunging your new case into a sizing die's risky unknown. So what possible advantage is to be gained?
Further, as we all know, it is not uncommon for necks of new brass to have been deformed during handing, packing and shipping. (They certainly are not made that way.) Often the necks are then straightened by amateur handloaders simply by forcing them over the expanding ball in a sizing die. But here again, dimensions can vary by maker and lot to lot, with variations sometimes extreme. (Have you ever actually measured the expanding balls in your dies?) Which is why the wiser and more correct choice for straightening and rounding deformed case neck is with a known and true dimension expanding mandrel. These are available from different makers, (K-M and Sinclair for example) at modest cost and in addition to being gentler and more precise with new cases, plus keeping them straighter, are also smoother to use.
Attached is a photo of neck mandrels made by KM, Sinclair and one made in our own shop. Making your own, such as this, is a relatively simple lathe operation.
I too always size new brass. I figure if it makes me feel better, it's not a waste of time.I size new brass, although many think it is a waste of time.