Troubled hornady bullet feeder question

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Paddy

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I'm having a tough time adjusting my bullet feeder die for 45acp to relatively feed. The package says 451"/452" but my collets inside the die only say .451". I think so e of my bullets are a bit large, like .4515-.452 and is is causing a Hangup. I polished all the stuff but didn't help. Does hornady supply the .452 collets?
 
To be honest, I have only used .451 bullets because I don't shoot .45 colt. and the required .452's. But if it is supposed to feed either then maybe understanding better how the collets work together will help you solve the issue. When I first got mine, it wouldn't feed .451's either. A little work with a dowel, wet/dry, and adjusting the die screw-in depth fixed it for me. Good luck.:)

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Looking at the picture above (.45's but all calibers work the same), two things have to happen for the bullets to drop.

Reason1. The top collet (left in the picture) has to let bullets fall freely through it unless the fingers are pressed together by the bottom collet. If it doesn't, clean the inside good, sand any burrs if any, and pry the fingers out a smidgen with a dowel if necessary.

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Bullets are ONLY supposed to stop in the top collet if a case is inserted into the bottom collet (right in the top picture) deep enough to open the other fingers in the bottom collet and drop the single bullet in the upper portion of the lower collet.

Reason 2. The bottom collet only opens wide enough to drop a bullet, if the bell is wide enough and the case is deep enough. To make the case deep enough you may have to turn the die in more.

The first thing you have to discover is where the bullets hang up....top collet or bottom collet. Top collet....clean it, deburr it, and/or rod it out a little if it has worked beyond where the springyness lets it return to open.

Hangs in the bottom collet? most likely the case isn't belled enough (.30" bigger than your bullets) or the die isn't screwed in enough.

Last picture shows how deep a .45 has to be into the bottom collet to allow the bullet to drop. Bullet shown in the top collet are pinched by my fingers simulating what happens as the case is pushed into the lower collet and in turn pushed collets together to pinch the top one. Hope this is of help.

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Okay "pry the fingers out a smidgen" is really speaking to me on this reply thanks. I tried sanding. I tried adjusting. I didn't try belling more, but I'd like it to work without over belling the case and as it is now, I can actually crimp the case a lot with the feeder die and that's no good.
I will try pry, and maybe a tad more sanding. Thx.
 
What bullet are you using? Jacketed, plated, coated or "wax" lube?
 
I feel your pain.
I had to sand (Dremel) both collets a fair amount to get my 9mm plated bullets to drop reliably.
It was a serious PITB to put together & take apart that many times but it works flawlessly now and makes a loading session much more productive.
 
I'm using a variety of bullets, but i am not really liking the slimy lubed lead so mainly plated berrys and hornady, and the like. Some of the plated ones are a bit over size.
 
There in lies some of your problem, these dies are not designed to feed lubed bullets or bullets that have lube type grooves.
You could push the oversized bullets (or ALL the bullets) thru a lee sizing die to standardize them to a diameter that will feed thru the die, rather than modifying the die.
The Lee sizing die(s) are cheap enough and made/sold in every common bullet diameter...it's what I do:D
 
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