the 25ACP Galesi

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I have a beautifull example of the alesi 25. Machiening is abundant and first rte with no tool marks or mistakes anywhere! ' Cutting in the sights required 4 seprate cuts, pure class!
If it were a more pratical caliber, it'be a joy to carry. As it is, the tiny .25 is good for Dogs or Snakes which is what I carry it for while airgunning.
I'm afraid that the .25 lacks the capibility to penetrate to any vitals on an average sized man. No real shock capibility. No expansion. Ammo is expensive.
But it's this little autoloader that fascinates me! Italan by manufacture, it portrays Europes finest machienests!
Upon dissambly the slide slips back as if under pneumatic pressure, it dosen't just "spring" apart! inner finish is as beautiful as exterior. The Reciept in the box says 196o's (Blurred ink) but the price is $63! Fairly high for those days.
Blued with white plastic grips and magazine tip. Sorry no pictures. It's a beauty though and the forerunner of almost all striker fired pistols today.
ZVP
 
For such a worthless and weak cartridge, the .25 ACP has killed a lot of people. It is no powerhouse, but please don't underestimate it!

Jim
 
Beautiful guns indeed.

As far as those .25 ACP pocket pistols, they may be old and rather irrelevant but can still do some damage.

That being said, my buddy has one of the old .25 Baby Brownings and while it's a blast to shoot, the tiny size makes me a little wary. They're fun, but definitely not easy to shoot!
 
The .25 ACP Galesi, a well made weapon, is a good gun for your opponent to have.

It may well have killed alot of people, but it surely didn't stop many.

Deaf
 
How can you say that.

I would venture a guess the .25 ACP has 'stopped' way more people from doing something rash then all the ones shot with it over the many years.

And a lot of those shot with it were stopped permanently forever also.

I wouldn't take one to a gunfight.
I would take a rifle.

But I don't want to ever get shot with one either.

Rc
 
In early 1980's .My Beretta 950 stopped a guy who was looking to have my money . Just the sight of the pistol sent him running.

As been said all ready lot of people have died from this caliber. Ball tested 16" in the jell test. That meets the FBI specs .
 
When I was young I drove cab in Sandy Eggo…. Area called Logan heights…… not really a great area but a colorful neighborhood none the less…. Gotta admit that cheap 25 auto saved my Ass-ets more than I care to think about….. Never had to shoot anybody in the heights, but I sure as he!! was able to get a persons attention redirected and avoid getting hurt on a number of occasions. Have always had respect for those little guns since…. But changed up to bigger and better when my budget allowed….. nobody, I mean nobody, ever really wanted me to unload it on them…… dirt.
 
rcmodel said:
How can you say that.
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How can I say that?

My wife has been a ER nurse, CV OR nurse, CV ICU nurse, head of CV nursing and she has seen many gunshot wounds.

Those shot with .22s, 25s, .32s usually walk in the ER complainng about beng shot.

As the size of the cartrige used increases more and more were carried in.

Only when it got to 12 guage or so did virtually all of them come in on a streatcher.

Sure a .25 will 'scare' some and thus stop them from continuing their actions, so would most any other handgun, but when push comes to shove, a larger more capable handgun is the way to go.

Hence I said it was a good gun for your opponent to have.

And that is how I can say that.

Deaf
 
Too many variables, all we can go on is the actual damage found.
For example, I remember one case where a guy was shot with a .25ACP FMJ. He arrived on a stretcher with very low blood pressure and all he had was a little hole on the lower abdomen off to the side.
On X-ray the bullet could be seen in the pelvic area. No bones were hit, it looked like a trivial injury.
The guy died because the bullet punctured an iliac artery. Maybe if he had been brought to hospital sooner he could have been saved, but the circumstances of that shooting meant he wasn't picked up straight away. He was shot and left for dead on the highway.

Another thing of note: I carried a .25 baby browning for 4 years as pocket carry in South Africa, mainly as a noise deterrent against dogs as I had been bitten whilst wheeling a bicycle in 1992. That was all I had access to, all I could afford and carry at the time.

I used that mouse gun to save a female security guard from being stabbed a second time by a goblin in downtown Johannesburg. It was a warning shot fired in the only safe direction available to me (as I assessed it at the time). Thinking back on it, there was a better course of action than what I did, but I didn't think of it at the time. Nonetheless the sound of the shot and the appearance of the mouse gun in my hand got the bad guy to stop what he was doing.

Sure, he ran, but he stopped stabbing the woman.

I agree that if you can carry .380 or bigger, that would be better. When I got my first car, I got a 9mm also, mainly because shootings involving cars were on the increase in South Africa and I couldn't trust the .25 to get through a side window with much energy left, never mind shooting through a windscreen or a side panel...
 
ZVP,

Good find and congrats. Back a couple of months on our large .25 ACP thread I mentioned that only lack of funds kept me from buying on at a show at that time. I seem to recall they ran half page adds in the pre 64 American Riflemen for the Galesi pistols. A gunsmith friend ( not a parts swapper, forced me to make my own firing pin for a Star pistol once on his equipment) liked them for what they were. Oh sure he carried an 1911-ish .45ACP on his belt at work and there was an .44 Auto Mag under the cash register ect. ect. but in his pocket was a Galesi......go figure.

I am with rc and others on this......NO SHOT stops are good things and count.

No a .25 Acp does not equal .45 ACP or a 15 shot Vunder nine or even a .38 SPL snubbie...... all jokes to the contrary I do not believe myself better armed with a concealable knife than with a .25 ( and I will have the knife anyway)...... and a .25 in the pocket beats all the car guns of whatever caliber in the world that are still in cars when you need them out walking about.

Besides as you were writing the little Galesi pistols are just neat. Let those jealous folks grumble and move on!

Oh yeah......how about some pictures?

-kBob
 
I'd rather have my 1911 but there are times and places where all I have is a Tanfoglio GT27 in .25 ACP. It's the only fire arm I've ever owned that has never had any malfunction. Every time I pull the trigger it goes bang, ejects & loads the next round. It's also amazingly accurate. I'd rather not have to use it - I understand it's limitations - but if I need to I know exactly what it will do.

Combine that with the fact that no-one wants to be shot by _anything_.

That's a hell of a lot better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
 
working in NYC, during the crack epidemic and drug gang wars, i saw quite a few shot by a .25 who never made the ER. Went straight to the morgue.
 
wild cat mccane said:
walked into the er with a gunshot?

Please.
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Yup...my Mom was an ER nurse and 2 of my best buddies are ER docs. Happens more than you'd think and not just with small calibers either. Handguns are not very good at stopping people. They might die 2 hours later or even 20 minutes later but people walk around shot all the time and even run away from a shooting and don't realize they are wounded til the adrenaline level drops.

That said, I have only personally witnessed one shooting and was ten feet away when a BG shoved a gun into another guys chest and told him he wanted the money and he wanted it *now* or he'd kill him....finger on the trigger, he shoved the guy backwards pushing the gun in his chest.

The intended victim raised both hands and reached behind him to get his wallet within arms distance, swept the revolver pointed at his chest and came out of his back pocket with a Raven .25 pistol and shot him 3X in one second right in the chest. I was ten feet away and time was at a standstill but I remember seeing the guys legs buckle at the first shot and he dropped like a rock never pulling the trigger.

DOA.."died instantly" was the police and coroners report. The shooter/robbery victim was arrested for carrying a weapon without permits (this was 38 years ago...) and released when the shooting was ruled justified. The BG had warrants out for armed robbery and was wanted for several violent crimes. So, would I feel perfectly outfitted with a .25 in my pocket? Probably not as I carry primarily 9mm *but* if you think a .25 is a joke and won't stop someone that would be a mistake. It's where the bullet goes and how deep and what it hits - not the caliber, power, or type of pistol that makes the difference. If a bullet hits "The Spot", that person is done...if it misses "The Spot" it doesn't matter if it's with a .22 or a .45. The person may or may not even be hurt all that bad.

VooDoo
 
A friend of mine was very nearly killed when a lucky but perfect shot went between the front and back panels of his vest. That 25 tore him up inside pretty good but fortunately he survived.
 
walked into the er with a gunshot?
Please.
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Happens all the time.
I have seen more than 3000 gunshot cases (and X-rayed a good portion of those) and they frequently walk in. That's in South Africa where the person will often get a taxi or get a lift from a friend into the hospital.
Even of those brought in by ambulance, they will often transfer by themselves from the ambulance stretcher to the A&E trolley.

I once got an X-ray request form which simply said "Gunshot head and thigh."
I fetched the guy from the casualty department on a stretcher. He was fully mobile and alert, had a Glasgow Coma Scale of 15/15. He was moving all limbs just fine, blood pressure was fine, no weakened pulses in the leg.
I was able to slide that guy from his trolley to my X-ray table and do the X-rays with the least of fuss. He could easily have transferred by himself if he wanted to.

He got lucky: there were two distinct entrance and exit wounds in the head but the bullet had just skimmed the skull. A few millimetres change in point of impact could have resulted in death or serious debilitating injury for this man. The thigh gunshot was also a lucky one: the femur was missed, and all the major vessels and nerves were spared also.

That guy got some dressings and antibiotics and was sent home the same night.
 
Keep waitin' for a photo...

To all the "ggogle is you friend" guys - I'm not the one braggin' up the pistol.

Let's see one.
 
Armi-Galesi

Well, mine isn't a .25ACP but a .32ACP. It is a little larger but not much. The .25 is similarly styled to my Model 9 but looks (to me) more like a Baby Browning - kind of "square" shaped, where my Model 9 looks more like a hammerless PPK.

1954 Armi-Galesi Model 9 - 7.65 Browning/.32ACP
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.25ACP Availibility, Use, and Potency

I have a .25ACP Bauer (stainless steel copy of Baby Browning), which I have carried only on a few occasions. I don't advocate carrying a .25, if you have something else better, available to do the job more efficiently.

But, there are a lot of .25's out there, which a carried by many, since they a inexpensive, light weight, and easy to conceal. At the same time, it is a relatively weak and low powered caliber.

They ARE able to kill, although less likely than a .380, .38SPL, etc.....
I do know of an attempted carjacker, who WAS killed by a .25 the elderly car driver was carrying, a few years back, not as much as a mile from where I'm sitting.

Go figure.
 
Look up Vasili Blokhin. He exeuted thousands of prisoners with a .25 acp.
 
Thanks for the photo DAMIEN.

I agree, it's a fine looking pistol. I end up keeping otherwise impractical (to me) European pistols all the time just 'cause I like their workmanship and heft. Nice to see one before this continues as another .25 ACP/.32/.380 AIN'T NO 9MM+P/.40/.45 (YOUR SERIOUS DEFENSIVE ROUND (HERE)) rant.


Geeze guys, give it a rest already. OP's just diggin' his pistol and already acknowledged the shortcomings.
 
Galesi .25ACP

Dear OP: Enjoy your Galesi .25. It is a beautiful (from your description and pictures of the Model 6), and well made pistol. I didn't realize how iconic and classic it was. Thank you for your input.:)
 
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