Holster shirt pros and cons?

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Thinking about practical ways to carry in a shirt and tie in situations in which I would want the gun to remain completely concealed at all times, I am wondering if a small, flat auto in a holster shirt might be the solution.

Does anyone have any practical experience to share with holster shirts in general and/or with the 5.11 holster shirts or those by any other manufacturer in particular?

Thanks!
 
Thinking about practical ways to carry in a shirt and tie in situations

Crossbreed supertuck with v-clips work great for me, they are about the same price as those shirts and I don't have to wash it every day like a undershirt.

I use it for a LCRX in a appendix holster, I can post a pic if you need a reference.

Or pocket holster works good too, I use one every now and then.

The shirt doesn't seem to practical since you will have to move the tie out of the way then unbutton your shirt, or rip it open ruining your shirt, then pull the pistol. With the supertuck or products like it you just lift the shirt, or for the pocket holster you just reach your hand in the pocket.
 
Thanks, guys. I guess part my question is whether or not a holster shirt is the most concealed practical method of concealed carry. In other words, is a holster shirt more or less likely to be detected than an IWB holster or pocket holster? For me, a greater degree of concealment is worth the extra step of popping open a button on my shirt, but only if a holster shirt does in fact give better concealment.
 
I have two of the 5.11 crew neck tees that I got on sale from a gun store that went out of business. Bottom line: they rarely get used, but I'm glad I got them half off and wouldn't buy them again at MSRP.

Pros:

• Holds the gun snugly.

• Generally, not uncomfortable in mild/cooler weather.

• Easy way to carry a gun plus one or two spare magazines on the other side.

Cons:

• Slow draw, going inside the outer shirt to get to the under shirt, then going fishing in the holster/pouch.

• The holster portion is large and deep. An LCP will go swimming in there. This could be a pro with something like a 1911, being easier to reach with a larger frame but still thin enough to conceal well.

Concealment is OK as long as you won't be hugging anyone (and if you do, drop your arms down). The draw isn't fast, but I'd say it's better than ankle carry. However, I think Thunderwear and the like will do a better job at concealing and still be slightly faster to get to. The shirts don't get much wear from me, but it's usually if I'm in pants without a belt (yoga pants, sweats) and wearing a hoody for a top. When I do use it, it's usually with a Glock 26. On my frame (medium/athletic) I probably wouldn't go larger.
 
A plus....

A + would be quicker access from a seated position(office desk).
It's worth noting that these garments are meant for deep concealment.
Your not going to have a blazing fast gun draw or do some IPSC drill while in office apparel :rolleyes:.
 
No experience with the 5.11 brand shirt, but would like to try it if not for the higher price tag. I do have one made by Undertech when they were offering a 2 for 1 deal with the Bellyband. The shirt is well made and very similar to a Under Armor wicking compression shirt. The holsters not as much. Carrying a small compact .380 or 9mm in the holster wasn't too bad but was rather uncomfortable with something larger or heavier.
 
Interesting...

I also would like to hear from anyone that has actually owned/worn one...

I have one and never find myself wearing it. Something as heavy as a G26 feels like it sags a little too much for me. It just doesn't feel stabile. Also, it is hot here for most of the year and they are very hot to wear. In the winter with a light jacket it is easy for me to owb carry a larger firearm with more comfort than iwb or the shirt.
I have a Thunderwear as well and only use it every once in a while with sweatpants for maybe walking around the block in the winter months.
I usually pocket carry a .380 regardless of my edc, so I don't have much use for the undershirt. I like the concept, but I get tired of that shirt squeezing me all day!
 
I have both the 5.11 and the Kramer Confidant. While I rarely wear one any more, I much prefer the Confidant. Its a lot more comfortable and versatile. I only wore the 5.11 a couple of times, and figured out pretty quick, it wasnt for me.

The 5.11 I have is in white, and its WHITE! You look like a Marine just coming out of boot camp when worn with an open collar. The material also tends to make me sweat, even in the winter.

I also find the pockets are more just that, pockets, and dont really hold the gun in place like a holster. Anything I put in them, would slide around and drive me crazy. They also tend to restrict the size of the gun to smaller guns.


The Confidant made of a mesh and can be worn over any tee shirt you like, and isnt seen. A cotton undershirt under it is much more comfortable than the synthetic like the 5.11.

It has two soft "holsters", one on either side, that also have a retaining strap. Ive carried a Combat Commander on one side, and its double reload in its belt carrier on the other, under a full cut, oxford type shirt and tie, with no troubles at all. If you leave a button open under your tie, its pretty easy to get to the gun without issue.

While the Colt was doable, I found two SIG P230s were a bit more comfortable and less bulky. I think anything smaller than something that size, would be to small, unless you modified the holsters.

These days, Ive found the Smart Carry holsters to be my favorite for anything that requires a deep concealment type holster. You can wear a pair of shorts with no shirt at all, and carry guns you would think you never could.
 
It's a given that business suit carry is going to be slower than normal to draw. Options include:
1. Shoulder or shirt holster carry
2. Deep concealment IWB
3. Ankle
4. Off body such as a holster planner, desk drawer, briefcase, etc.

It's going to be tradeoff on a quick draw and concealment.

I have no experience with a shirt and would also like feedback. I have tried various shoulder holsters. They are alright. Ankle carry in a Desanti Apache ankle rig works well.

But the pricetag seems quite high at around $50. You'd need at least 2 to and have to wash them almost daily, and probably more like 3+ for a rotation in your wardrobe. I would also expect that daily wear would wear these out and require pretty regular replacement of the shirt and/or elastic with nearly daily washings.

Instead you might try the Miami Classic for $160. These seem to be well-liked and more useable. And if you hate it you can also sell it for most of your money, unlike the shirts. I have one, and it's okay but not perfect in a form fitting suit.

Or a Desanti Apache ankle rig. I recently got mine and for a 20 oz pistol it's very good option when nothing else seems to work.
 
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But the pricetag seems quite high at around $50. You'd need at least 2 to and have to wash them almost daily, and probably more like 3+ for a rotation in your wardrobe. I would also expect that daily wear would wear these out and require pretty regular replacement of the shirt and/or elastic with nearly daily washings.
If I were wearing one on a daily basis, youre right, you would be better off with a couple. The 5.11 would need washed daily, the Kramer, you could probably get by with once a week or maybe more, depending on time of year and how you sweat, since its not the actual undershirt. Thats assuming youre wearing a tee shirt too, if not, which I wouldnt personally like, it would likely have to be washed daily too.

My Confidant has been washed a number of times, and doesnt seem to have been degraded because of it.

As far as the price, a couple would set you back about the same as a good leather holster, and about half of a decent shoulder holster.


Ive worn shoulder holsters, and Im not real fond of them. Ive always found they are one of the easiest to spot, tend to be uncomfortable over time, and wont allow you to remove the cover garment.

The only one Ive found to work OK, and on occasion still do use, is the Galco "Executive". Its a very minimal holster, that is comfortable, but you still have to be careful about it being seen.

The big advantage to the undershirt type over a traditional shoulder holster, is they dont print, have straps that tend to expose themselves, and the gun doesnt swing out (you also dont have near the "bulge") if the holster itself isnt secured, and you dont need a coat, or can remove it, if you are wearing one.


Ive used a number of ankle holsters, and have found the Desantis to be the most comfortable for me, especially their "Leather Ankle Holster" model. So far, its the only ankle holster I can wear all day (16-18 hours), in total comfort, and carrying something like a Glock 26 or J frame.

Contrary to what you often hear, ankle holsters arent all that hard to access quickly, if you practice, and it can be done in a couple of different ways.

The downside to them is, they are basically in the dirt, and the gun and holster tend to get dirty quickly, especially if you work outside of an office environment. Water is another worry there in that respect too. When in company of others, you need to watch how you sit, and place your legs, and getting out of some vehicles, can be problematical too. Climbing, lifting your leg, etc, can be an issue as well. Running isnt a lot of fun either, and has its own issues.

As far as anything "off body", I say pass. If its not on you, you dont have it. Its also something that often tends to be the target of theft, simply for what it looks like or is pretending to be.


As I said earlier, my favorite these days, for anything deep concealment wise, is the Smart Carry holster. Ive yet to find anything that works as well at what it does, and in as many situations. It will conceal fairly large gun (the developer wears a GM 1911 in a pair of jeans with his) with no problem. Its quickly and easily accessed, even one handed, and its also very comfortable, even when youre active and over extended periods of time. Its waterproof on the back side, so rust normally isnt an issue. The only cover garment you need, is a pair of pants or shorts. Its also the only holster Ive ever used, where the gun stays "clean", even over extended use in a very dirty/dusty environments.
 
Those shirt holsters are hot, sweaty, hard to access.

Best bet is a Ruger LCP (or similar) or even an LCR/J-frame in a pocket holster in right front pocket. No one will notice at all. I've done it frequently for years. No one has ever noticed.
 
I also would like to hear from anyone that has actually owned/worn one...

My wife got me a few one year for Christmas...

Worthless, sums it up...
 
You may find a belly band holster more useful than a holster shirt. I wear a belly band low on my waist similar to a IWB holster. I always use a six inch holster regardless of the size of the gun. Most belly band holsters have a spare magazine pouch and a money bag. Sometimes I carry a small gun in a belly band but usually I carry a duty size pistol in a belly band. If I am going to an area where I am that concerned I want two duty size pistols.

What got me started wearing a belly band holster is I had to wear a back brace for several years. I still wear a back brace today If I am going to do any lifting or a lot of twisting. I would just clip a holster in the webbing/straps of the back brace. The belly bands are not as sturdy as a back brace but they are flexible. I can easily position a pistol so I can easily access it when driving in a belly band.
 
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OP,
I've used the compression holster shirts, and for me.....none of them were comfortable for me. The compression gets kind of old toward the end of the day.

I have had good results with the Kangaroo Carry Air Marshall model for years. If you want to wear a compact size gun in a NPE it can work well. I wear mine with a coat and tie to work, and since I work in the Southeast it is nice to be able to take my sport coat/suit jacket off and have no concealment issues.

It is a slower draw, but the trade off to me is being able to carry a bigger gun comfortably all day with no chance of being discovered by co-workers or clients. Good luck
 
Thanks, all. For a job that involves business attire and a lot of sitting I think the Kangaroo Carry is going to be the best option.
 
I pocket carry in my front pants pocket. Either a J frame or a P938. Sometimes even an SP101. Soon I will be trying it with a S&W Shield. It works great. Quick access (compared to shirts, smart carry etc) and very well concealed.
I use a Pocket Protector holster from Simply Rugged, or a Galco Pocket Holster, but lots of others out there.
www.simplyrugged.com
 
Quick access (compared to shirts, smart carry etc)
The only way Ive ever found pocket carry to be quicker, is if my hand were already on the gun. If your hand isnt on the gun, I find its actually slower than most other methods of carry. If youre sitting, and carrying in your pants pocket, make an appointment.

The shirt really isnt all that slow, and if you set the shirt up right, either leave a button open, or rig a velcro button, its actually pretty quick.

The Smart Carry is the fastest of the three, all situations considered. Its also the most concealable under all conditions.
 
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