Need magazine follower for mossberg 590

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8plus 1 capacity. I'm thinking I want stainless the factory blued one is alittle rough. I've heard a lot of bad things about the gcg follower and not working with the wolf spring also and I have the Wolff spring . Ones I've seen so far are the brownells stainless and aluminum and the vang comp stainless. Any others?
 
I went gcg and a wolf spring. I like that follower. Different color and tactile feel vs when I have a shell in the tube. The wolf spring does NOT develop a set whereas the factory spring does. I wrote about it here. I likely have three plus years of stability data where I keep 5 out of eight shells in the tube. I also take it out and use it frequently. I wrote a thread detailing all of this. I think you have good choices. Also, I belong to a trap league and swapped out to the identical follower and spring so I could get lots of reps with a setup nearly identical to my home defense set up. I have even started using the Velcro attached side saddle to reload in league to get practice in.
 
You should not use a Stainless steel follower as this can cause slap preening of the follower shoulder stop. This is why most all manufacturers stopped using them.

There are plenty of after market aluminum and other materials to use. Check out www.sbeprecision.com as I highly recommend them.
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You should not use a Stainless steel follower as this can cause slap preening of the follower shoulder stop. This is why most all manufacturers stopped using them.



There are plenty of after market aluminum and other materials to use. Check out www.sbeprecision.com as I highly recommend them.

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How can that be when factory mossberg followers are blued steel? Isn't that the same hardness?
 
No, it is not. The Mossberg follower is just a steel follower. Stainless steel is harder then any metal in that gun. I would not even use the metal follower unless is was aluminum.
 
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Stainless is harder then what ever metal comes stock? It's sort of a blued steel but thin gauge. Are the brownells aluminum followers more or less likely to bend in the tube then the light gauge factory steel?
 
Stainless steel is no harder then any other steel of the same hardness grade.

Some of it used in draw forming cups (as in magazine followers for instance) is pretty soft as steel goes.

And I would say there are several parts in a Mossberg shotgun harder then a cup drawn S/S mag tube follower.
Like the bolt, the springs, the trigger & sear, and a few other things.

Besides, it is under no spring pressure to speak of when it gets to the follower stop with the mag empty.
So how it it peening anything??

rc
 
Slap preening is caused by surge when the last shot is fired. The follower surges forward due to recoil and slams back into the shoulder stop. And yes, any stainless steel is harder then the steel in the follower shoulder stop.
 
Chevyforlife21, you started the thread and asked for suggestions. You have a Remington and Mossberg certified armorer - who for decades has made his living fixing, customizing, and rebuilding fighting shotguns for professionals - telling you what will work best. Rather than listening to him you keep trying to justify buying the thing you want that he's telling you will cause problems. Buy what you want, but I'd listen to what AI&P is telling you.
 
Slap preening is caused by surge when the last shot is fired. The follower surges forward due to recoil and slams back into the shoulder stop. And yes, any stainless steel is harder then the steel in the follower shoulder stop.
Out of curiosity, what damage does this do?
 
Out of curiosity, what damage does this do?
You have to buy a new Mossberg shotgun every 75 years?

My thought is, unless you are shooting a few thousand rounds a year in practice & competition every year?

It's not going to do any damage the average shooter will live long enough to find out.

rc
 
You have to buy a new Mossberg shotgun every 75 years?

My thought is, unless you are shooting a few thousand rounds a year in practice & competition every year?

It's not going to do any damage the average shooter will live long enough to find out.

rc
Good to know. The 590 gets about 1000 rounds a year through it. The 500 around 3000 rounds a year. I had changed to these followers about two years ago. Prior followers were either the polymer ones or the aluminum ones. I think I may change back to Al follower. These days I mostly shoot my shotgun. Our trap league this year had enough interest to run year round. 10 weeks on, awards, 2 weeks off, then repeat. Was a lot of fun.

The only person I even know who wore out a shotgun was Scott Reitz with one his rental 870s. Robar couldn't fix it. He sent it to Remington and they replaced it. I don't know what wore out specifically that couldn't be fixed.
 
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I saw about a Dozen back in the day because our Department 870's came with metal followers and our Department load was 2 3/4 Magnum 12 pellet. These were the Armory guns that were used for qual and of course got an incredible round count over the years. So our situation was magnified over the years. This is why Remington stopped using the Metal followers.

Will it damage your gun to the point of a factory repair? Don't know. Do you? I don't know what you shoot or how often. The issue is on page 67 of Jerry Kuhnhausen's book "The Remington Shotgun", " A shop Manual". Maybe as stated on this forum you can use yours for 75 with no damage. It's your gun so do as you want.

If a Professional tells you not to use something you can either take their advice or ignore it. I was told about this as I was sitting in class at the Remington Factory years ago. The man telling us this had about 40 years at the factory with 25 of that being in the LE Training Division. Here was a Professional telling me something and I chose to accept the advice. I saw Jerry Kuhnhausens book on the Instructors table at the factory and on several work benches in the factory so that serves as a second Professional opinion to me. Add the damage I saw years back on our department weapons and I fully accept this. Yet, any time I post it on a forum there is the same mess from people who believe different. Maybe they know more then the people who told me this so when they write the definitive book on the 870 I will be sure to buy a copy as I am always eager to learn new things even at 61.

I'll end comment on this as I have given the OP the facts. Can't add to the facts.
 
I'm not a fan of 870s how does this correlate to mossbergs with removable she'll stops that cost 10 bucks? After 20k rounds just need a new she'll stop? I believe the 870s are welded in or something? I'd understand on those neon. Carefil
 
I replaced mine with an aluminum one from Brownell's, and got it in orange so it's easier to differentiate when empty.
 
I'm not a fan of 870s how does this correlate to mossbergs with removable she'll stops that cost 10 bucks? After 20k rounds just need a new she'll stop? I believe the 870s are welded in or something? I'd understand on those neon. Carefil

Has nothing to do with the shell stops. It is the follower should stop that is affected.
 
Thanks AIP. I learned a long time ago to listen to professionals. You did an excellent job of pointing out your credentials and experience so I will follow your advice.

Out of curiosity, I know you prefer the 870. Are there any detriments to the Mossberg 500 or 590 platform? I know this topic has been flogged to death for 50 years. Just curious about any facts and observations you may have from many years of experience.
 
The Mossberg 500/590 is based on the Remington model 31. Remington decided to discontinue it in favor of the 870 in 1950. The patent laid dormant for 10 years so Mossberg picked it up and thus was born the Mossberg 500. It is a solid design and one I would not hesitate to take to a fight if an 870 was not available. It is also preferred by those who are left handed due to the safety location. The double extractors are a feature that meant nothing years ago when all ammo was well made. However the double extractor feature is a big plus due to all the modern crap ammo out there. Whether a 500 or 590 you will never be under-gunned in a fight if that is what is in your hands.
 
Thanks AI&P. You provided info on Moss 500 I hadn't heard before.
Ditto that.

I did a little research after reading his posts - got my first shotgun a few months back (590A1) - I went ahead and ordered the SBE follower, and a few Wolff springs.

Dunno if I'll need them or not - I've read numerous 'Net articles / posts of folks having problems, but I've also read Mossberg changed the spring a while back due to those problems?

When you go searching for info on gun problems, you never know if the factory has made changes based on problems reported from a few years ago.
 
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