Bushmaster ACR

I think that its a $2000 Remington 5.56 that has little to no tangible benefit over a $800 AR....

Ok. So its an 8.5lb 5.56 that offer little tangible benefit over a 7lb Colt 6920. When a part breaks, its back to the factory it goes (or wait forever for parts), whereas you can easily stock spare parts for an AR. Acr only has cheesy Magpul forend or cheese grater rail commonly available. Little aftermarket support. Yes its piston op, but thats an entirely different (and common) argument.

ny32182 said:

So parts are hard to come by? How about different barrels?

Is it accurate, reliable, does the gas system work? What kind of quality is the stock?

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Have you watched The Military Arms Channel's comparison of the ACR and SCAR?

https://www.youtube.com/user/Sturmgewehre/search?query=acr+scar

The only one I've seen shot personally puked its gas system out the front during a match.

It still worked, but only as a repeater.

BSW

ny32182 said:

What are it's known weak points?

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It's made by Bushmaster

It's overly heavy, they never offered the replacement barrels they initially claimed they would, the barrels still have the stupid M4 M203 style cutout, parts will not be easy to find, and accuracy won't be as good as a good AR. That being said, it'll probably be tough, reliable, and it has a cool factor to it. You can find them for about $1600 used now.

It's overly heavy, they never offered the replacement barrels they initially claimed they would, the barrels still have the stupid M4 M203 style cutout, parts will not be easy to find, and accuracy won't be as good as a good AR. That being said, it'll probably be tough, reliable, and it has a cool factor to it. You can find them for about $1600 used now

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Agreed. Heavy, overpriced, limited parts availability, heavy trigger, Cerberus/Freedom Group/Remington, average accuracy.... Whats not to love?

Meh, It's a good carbine. But the proofs in the pudding.

And it didn't shoot up Jello snack packs as well as a regular sub $1000 Ar15.

Have you watched The Military Arms Channel's comparison of the ACR and SCAR?

https://www.youtube.com/user/Sturmge...query=acr+scar

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Also keep in mind that the ACR tested on that youtube video was an old model made by the original Bushmaster from Windham, ME (now reopened as Windham Weaponry). The newer ones are not made by the same company or in the same factory.

Not sure about that..Bushmaster operations were moved out of Maine in March of 2011

Not sure about that..Bushmaster operations were moved out of Maine in March of 2011

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He says in the video that it was made there. Watch the video.

ny32182,

Yes, I believe I can give you some of the dope on the ACR. This ACR, for instance---




At close to 4000 rounds down the pipe, I have still never lubricated the BCG or receiver. The BCG rides on steel rails attached to the aluminum hull by the large headed screws visible on the outside of the receiver; the rails and BCG are a steel alloy which contains the lubricating agent---it's not a coating.
The gas system has been problem free, never having "puked it's gas system out the front..."---because I know how to put the plug in properly.
The factory trigger, a typical AR single stage, was replaced with a Rock River two stage some time ago. The hammer spring is unique to the rifle though, so it stayed. This spring also retains the safety lever and is involved in keeping the trigger group in the rifle.
Accuracy is quite good, when I had the Nikon on this rifle, 1.25", five shot, 100 meter groups were repeatable as long as I got the Zen going.
"It's too heavy!", or more properly, "It's too he-he-he-heh-veeee-hee-hee-hee-heeee!", with a snot bubble popping right there at the end.
My DPMS M4 with MARS sight weighs 8.7 pounds, the ACR with the giant ACOG weighs 9.9 pounds and a Model 1863 Springfield rifled musket, with bayonet, weighs 10.4 pounds.
The guys who carried these last were about 5.6" tall and tough as nails. They often died horribly and rarely produced snot bubbles. So...

Weak point---I have not found one, but I'm not going to drive a truck over it, either.
Got a question? I'll try to answer.
-----krinko

So this rifle doen't require lubrication?

So this rifle doen't require lubrication?

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You can run plenty of firearms without lubrication, but that doesn't mean you should.

Steel on steel WILL wear out in time. A few drops of oil is very easy insurance to mitigate this on an expensive rifle. Even AKs are supposed to be lubricated.

ny32182 said:

So parts are hard to come by? How about different barrels?

Is it accurate, reliable, does the gas system work? What kind of quality is the stock?

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I had one for a while, I regret selling it, but needed some cash and wanted a new hunting rifle. I was very happy with the rifle in general. Accuracy was quite good, MOA or close to it with most types of ammo. It was completely reliable (0 failures over about 1000 rounds), no issues with the gas system or anything else. The stock was solid. It was incredibly modular and easy to disassemble. I also like the fact that the charging handle is non-reciprocating. I really liked the quick change barrel system. My biggest criticism is lack of barrels to change out and make use of the system...:banghead:

The guys who carried these last were about 5.6" tall and tough as nails. They often died horribly and rarely produced snot bubbles. So...

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So what? Because a century and a half ago soldiers carried muskets (without also lugging around body armor, hundreds of rounds, radios, etc) that means we shouldn't consider reduced weight of a rifle to be an asset? Considering the way these weapons are fired alonge makes comparing the two seem a bit silly. A modern carbine is held shouldered for long periods of time while the shooter may have to quickly transition from target to target. The carbine shooter is likely to fire on the move and employ agility. The musket shooter spends most of his time loading and praying he isn't over run in the process.

The ACR always struck me as being like a car designed by Ferrari but built by Yugo. Pretty expensive for a Bushmaster. At the time I wished that Remington would have decided to build most of them but apparently Big Green ain't what she once was, either.

I had one with a custom barrel (light profile and shortened) that really helped shift the weight bias rearward. Also had a SCAR-L (16S) at the same time. Really thought that the ACR was a better rifle. Sold both during the scare a couple of years ago, both being run up to insane high prices at auction.

I've replaced the ACR with another one and really enjoy shooting it. Problem free over a couple thousand rounds so far. Have not thought about replacing the SCAR at all.

It is a good rifle that lacks from factory support on barrel kits. Remington truly is missing the boat here, factory barrel exchange kits for caliber conversions would likely sell like hot cakes.

This thing started as the Magpul Masada.

dvdcrr said:

This thing started as the Magpul Masada.

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If it was produced as the Masada was designed it would have been OUTSTANDING and likely would have achieved military acceptance with some nations.