Ruger 22/45 lite JUNK

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If you don't like it send it to me, I love mine. The classic connector hasn't changed on any of the MK I,II,III or Standard models in years. Yes it does take practice but from what I have learned a tool has been developed to help novice Ruger .22 owners keep their sanity.
 
Nothing commands less respect from me than the OP's, or anyone's for that matter, that title a post, XYZ pistols are junk.

Ruger MK series pistols are for people that know how to insert magazines and can follow a 3 minute video on the Ruger website on assembly and dis-assembly of the MK series pistols.

Save your self from further frustration and trade your Ruger for a revolver.
 
I solved the take down by getting a little tool from the cosmetic shelf at Walmart [I have no idea what it is for] that has a thin metal loop. Works great and pulls the lever out quite well.
 
Let's try to keep comments on "The High Road". Whether the OP is a brand new shooter, a young person, etc, we all started off at the same place. Let's try to have patience and see if we can help a fellow THR member without making him/her feel alienated.
 
Love my LITE!

I have way too much fun with my suppressor and my 22/45 LITE. I clean it when it starts to jam, which so far is never. Guess I need to shoot more. I squirt solvent in there and blow it all out and take it down when it needs it.

Notice I put the magazine in whilst holding onto my iPhone, that is how it is done. Might even work better with a droid phone.

Be patient, get with someone who knows what they are doing and have fun....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_9OOrGC61s
 
Honestly, I'm surprised the mods have let this pointless thread go on this long.

Let's try to keep comments on "The High Road". Whether the OP is a brand new shooter, a young person, etc, we all started off at the same place. Let's try to have patience and see if we can help a fellow THR member without making him/her feel alienated.

It started out as a whining thread on the OP's part, so it was never High Road to begin with.

He's obviously not here for any guidance or discussion, as he has been referring to every counterpoint as being from owners with "simple minds."

Someone please put this out of it's misery.
 
So your solution to whining is whining? Really? I will say this I lost my father last week, the gun just came in and I was very very tired. I still say the plastic frame make for a bit more difficult IMO to take down and the mag well is a bit disappointing, and I am still not really happy with how the mag does not snap into place without a palm hit to the bottom. At the range it shot well, and after I took it apart several times it did get easier once I got used to all the little quirks that it takes to disassemble and reassemble the gun. I am sorry for the simple minds comment. I had to watch my father die over several weeks from liver and kidney failure and it makes ones mind or at least my mind on edge and not as clear as I would like to be. Every thing is more annoying then it is in a normal time. I will also say the gun is not junk that was over the top. I am not saying I did not see minor problems with the gun, its still got its problems that I am not extactic about and it could have been fixed. But I should not have attacked it so hard. I think it was a bit of misdirected anger.
 
As others have mentioned, buy the little bushing that removes the magazine disconnect. That is the source of much of the take down heart burn. Then, I'd remove the loaded chamber indicator, and replace it with a blank that are available.

I have had a MK II era 22/45 four inch bull barrel pistol for a long time, and yes you have to make sure the mag is in place, but that's about it. The gun shoots great, is accurate, and a good field companion too.
 
Sorry for your loss.

There is an aftermarket product that could aid in the insertion of Ruger 22/45 magazines. Tandemkross has a product called "Plus 1 Pro Magazine Bumpers" and they make installing the mag a whole bunch easier. The added thickness of the bumper to the bottom of the magazine makes positive mag insertion much more comfortable. These attach onto the bottom of the mag in just a few moments.

If you are interested they are actually having a special on these this month. http://www.tandemkross.com/Plus1-PRO-Magazine-Bumper_p_12.html

Hope this helps.

R,
Bullseye
 
I'm with the OP. The Ruger is a PITA to take down and even if you've got lots of experience, it still sucks.

That said my MK 3 has over 10,000 trouble free rounds through it and I've done a full disassembly only once. They're solid guns known for their reliability. If you'd looked online you'd have known what you were in for. Sounds like you should check out the Buckmark, SR22, or the Neos. All of these are simpler to maintain and are still good quality guns.
+1. I have one, I love it. I blast it with wd40 until it runs clear, lightly lube, pull a bore snake through it and fire another few thousand rounds. I'm not taking mine apart, and I generally take anything apart. All my other guns have been down to the screws, but not this one. It is a well known issue.

Hose it down for cleaning, dry it, lube it, run it until it FTF's, Repeat. It is not a tactical defensive firearm, so ease of field stripping and quick reloads were not a factor in my decision to buy it.
 
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I own several of them mostly MK II SS versions and a 22-45. I still need to look at the manual every time I clean them completely which is not all that often I might add.;) I have shot my two 6 inch bull barreled ones so much that I have peened the firing pins over enough to cause misfires and replaced them both twice, as well as the set of springs once each. So cleaning them every 30K to 40K rounds seem to be the normal for me. YMMV

So if you do not like that particular model try trading or just sell it for something else. My 22-45 works well so you may have just lucked into a defective one and if so Ruger will make it right for you.
 
My 22/45 lite is one of my favorite pistols. When I first got it, I dropped a Majestic arms speed strip kit in, which kills the mag safety, cleans up the trigger and makes it so you can remove one screw and pull bolt right out. The pistol isn't hard to strip with a little practice, but all the benefits that came with the kit were well worth the purchase price to me.
 
I've owned Ruger Mk pistols since the 1970's. Including the original Mk.II 22/45. Read the Manual, and the take-down for cleaning becomes easy. Don't read the Manual, and whine.Oddly, ALL of the 22/45 pistols use a polymer frame, and mine has well in excess of 20k rounds through it. Never had a problem inserting the magazine, but, I'm not going to require that it inserts in only a single fashion, the one I'm used to.

The Op didn't ASK for help. He simply bad-mouthed the pistol, and it's features. Short of joining in and putting the gun down, there was no way to "help him".

It ISN'T the gun that is such "excrement", it's the attitude of the poster. Just sell it.
 
It started out as a whining thread on the OP's part, so it was never High Road to begin with.

He's obviously not here for any guidance or discussion, as he has been referring to every counterpoint as being from owners with "simple minds."

That doesn't absolve all of us from being polite and respectful, even though we may disagree with the tone or manner in which something is said. Hopefully members like that will take their cues from how we respond.
 
Can't add anything constructive here, but I will say that the first time I had my MK III completely disassembled; and was struggling to get it back together, had there been a big body of water near me, at one point I would have thrown the dang thing in!
 
Thanks. I will look into those add ons and see if it is something that may work. I put my extra TRS25 on it and will take it to the range and see how that preforms.
 
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In the spirit of providing proper assistance. I will attempt to assist with the more salient points. I am providing the sources that I used to resolve the very issues present in the OP.

1. Regarding the reassembly. I agree it can be a bit of a challenge the first time about. Ruger has produced the definitive video on how to disassemble/reassemble this pistol. The Ruger technician describe the 'trick' that makes this a simple process. Please refer to https://youtu.be/UeY9s2TYAOk

2. The magazine unloading does perform per design. I can only speculate that the design is to prevent the magazine from simply dropping free to the floor. Once released the magazine will drop 1/4 inch awaiting to be stripped free. This is supported in the manual (ref. http://www.ruger.com/products/_manuals/markIII.pdf pg. 14)

TO LOAD AND FIRE

Practice this important aspect of gun handing (with an unloaded pistol) until you can perform each of the steps — described below — with skill and confidence. But before you do anything with the pistol, first read completely through this
manual.

1. Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction. (See Rule 2, p. 42.)
2. Push the magazine release button and pull the magazine down out of the grip frame by its foot.
3. Grasp the grooved ears of the bolt and pull the bolt to the rear as far as it will go. (See Figure 4, below.) This cocks the hammer and must be done before the safety can be put on.

I suggest that if one considers the basic operation it becomes evident that this is one of the finest pistols to learn handgun handling. I used this to very handgun to learn trigger control, grip, and sight picture.

Try running the NRA/Winchester marksmanship program to really get a good grasp of the basics. You might even become a fan.

Best regards,
frgood
 
REMEMBER when your dad used to say, “If it doesn't fit, don't force it?" Well, he wasn't talking about Ruger .22LR autos. When I take apart and put together Ruger .22s, I bring several different hammers with me. Once, back in the late 70s, a guy brought his Ruger 6-inch standard auto into a gun store I frequented. It was all in a bag because He couldn't put it back together. Since it was busy and I had some free time, I told the shop-owner that I'd help out. The gun owner had not shot the bloody thing and ten minutes into the project I couldn't do a thing. It was very tight from the factory. So I asked the fellow to take a walk -- that he shouldn't be there to see what I was going to do. He took of and a half hour later he returned to find his gun reassembled and working perfectly. But I had to use several mallets and some other tools to coax...a euphemism, to be sure...the thing back together.

It helps greatly to shoot several hundred rounds through these guns before you even think about taking them apart. And like Jeff Cooper used to repeatedly tell people, don't work too hard on cleaning .22LR guns. Use a toothbrush and solvent to clean the debris out of the chamber and put a patch (1) with some oil or BreakFree on it. The reason, he said, is that modern .22 ammo propellant actually inhibits rust and is an excellent preservative. Thus, one need only remove the clutter.

I have a .22LR Mark III 22/45, and the plastics you mention are extraordinarily robust and made of very durable materials. Mine functions flawlessly, but I greatly prefer my stainless steel Mark II. The first Ruger .22 auto was made the year I was born, and it's fascinating to see old ads from that year and finding it to be so familiar. Very few changes, and just as much a pain in the ass to take apart and put together then as they are now.


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I got some great deals on Ruger MkII stainless Government Target models because people didn't want to learn how to strip/reassemble. And that's astounding in this day and age where it takes what, a couple of seconds, to find multiple videos, step by step photos, etc. online.

Every one is more difficult to take down than most of my 22's, but not that difficult, and they are all reliable as well as accurate. I'll take a little difficulty to get those other factors.
 
Funny, Ruger has been successfully selling junk for decades then. ha

Glocks are plastic too, I guess I better throw mine away then?

First time I took my 22/45 apart it went smoothly without frustration. No hammers, no paper clips, just a beautiful day on the porch with my dog cleaning my reliable, well-priced, beautiful, easily disassembled firearm. I watched a several minute long youtube video and had no trouble putting it back together.
 
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