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Webley Mark II Information Please

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GlockFu

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I acquired a Webley Mark II and have some questions about it that I was hoping you fine folks could answer. I believe this to be an original, unmodified .455.

- Are ALL Webley Mark II's antiques?
- How much are these worth?

Thanks!

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From what I could Google, the Mk II was made 1894-1897 and all are therefore BATF "Antiques."

I won't guess a value. Surely you gave an appropriate price or trade when you "acquired" it.

The great big broad arrow on the top strap and the N on the backstrap indicate Royal Navy issue. Maybe it went someplace else first, with the struck out "24" and the "C/N/1 8.07". Refurbed and transferred to the navy in August 1907? Maybe, but I don't know for sure.

I kept Googling. The C/N/1 MAY indicate Canadian Navy 1st class, so it may have ended up in the Canadian Naval Service in 1907. I find several guns marked that way with dates before WW I.
 
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but given the gap at the rear of the cylinder I strongly suspect that this revolver has been cut for moon clips. A picture of the rear of the cylinder would help.

If you shoot it, use *very* light loads with lead bullets. MkIIs were made for black powder pressures. Full power 45 ACP loads, especially with jacketed bullets will eventually damage the gun.
 
The cylinder serial number is intact. Shaving for ACP usually cuts the number in half.
Nothing to do but test the fit. And not shoot full charge ACPs if it has been cut.
 
I have already test fit this with .45 ACP and the revolver will not close so I am very confident that it is unmodified. Funny thing is the person I got this from provided 45ACP on moon clips and loose 45 Autorim with the revolver so I assumed (and I think he did as well) that the ammo was for this revolver. I tried to load both types of ammunition and it would not close. The rim of the cases got in the way.
 
A very nice vintage Webley Mk.II. Always liked the look of the birdshead grip design.
 
I tried to load both types of ammunition and it would not close. The rim of the cases got in the way.

OK, I'll take actual test results over guessing about pictures. Sounds like it's uncut then.
 
Those unaltered guns have gone up considerably in the last few years from the days when they were scorned at $29. I may be off base, but in that condition, I will take a WAG at $1500 asking price.

Jim
 
Natman's right. The rear cylinder face should show last 3 didgets of S/N, and a couple of others that are assembly code nos that are also on the frame hinge flat seen when you remove cylinder. I have over a dozen Mks I-VI, shaved and not. The cylinder nos don't always appear to show metal loss. Some of my cut ones still exhibit a good bit of space twixt nos and edge, this is probably due to the different assemblers placing them on the cylinder. If you put an acp in the chamber w/o a moon clip it should have slid thru as it is rimless. Just sayin'!
 
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