1912 Colt Police Positive Special

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According to the Colt S/N dB, my newly-acquired .32-20 5" Colt Police Positive Special was MFD in 1912, the same year that, among many other things, the Titanic sank. It is the top one in the pic ... beside the 1932 .32-20 4" Colt Army Special that belonged to my maternal grandfather.

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I don't care about the finish wear or the missing ejector rod head (Numrich is out of them :(). Actually, I think that those along with the original broken grips helped keep anyone else from bidding on this pup so I got it for the relatively-low opening bid. :)

No, I cannot properly wrap my large paw around that original-style grip ... but things seem to work fine with my pinky positioned tightly underneath.

I detail-stripped & inspected the pistol. Everything looked fine with the exception of some noticeable wear on the cylinder lock. I suspected a slight alignment issue.

On the back patio I water-trapped some lead bullets ... very hightech, 13 water-filled milk jugs in a line. Measuring the fired bullets proved that the bore groove diameter is ~.313", so the .314" lead that I load for the Colt Army Special will work fine. That was one major consideration in my search for another .32-20 pistol.

A magnified inspection of the captured bullets showed some minor shoulder damage, so I inspected the cone and found excessive splash on the right side. Using a piece of drill-rod as an alignment tool, I put the fired cases back in the cylinder and confirmed the alignment issue.

With a two-hand grip I can correct the timing/alignment issue, but I wanted a permanent solution, so I called Numrich and asked Marie to have her Guy look closely at the 4 "Bolts" they had in-stock. He reported that one of the 4 appeared to be unworn ... so that is now in-bound.

Within the next couple of weeks I hope that the drainfield will be dry enough to run some accuracy & CHRONY testing. Among other things, I will be interested to see how much the additional 1" of barrel contributes to the velocity.

I will update this Thread when I have done that testing.

In the meantime, does anyone know where I might find a replacement Ejector Rod Head for this Colt Police Positive Special? ;)
 
GBExpat

Well now you've got another .32-20 to keep your Army Special company. For some reason as yet unknown to me, I have this certain fascination with that particular cartridge. Looking forward to more in-depth range reports on your latest aquistion.
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Quite frankly, I was sandbagged by the effects of the .32-20 Bug Bite.

I only started the .32-20 handloading because I firgured that it would be a natural companion for when I finally started handloading for the 7.62x38r Nagant.

I really lucked out on this Police Positive Special ($250). It was on Gunbroker with enough real (and probably some imagined) issues that Bidders stayed away. Prices for this general type of .32-20 vintage revolver are just NUTS on Gunbroker.

I can see that I will have to (re)start frequenting Pawn Shops and little gun shops ... especially since I would now like a .32-20 lever longgun. <sigh>

;)
 
You can get good copies of the grips from www.gungrip.com; the ejector rod threads are common to all models of Colt DA, so you should be able to turn up a rod head from someone.

Jim
 
There is a seller on eBay that makes a few of the knurled nuts for a few of the older Colts, I think it is GunGarage or something like that.
 
GBExpat

The last .32-20 I saw was a S&W and in pretty poor condition. They were asking $795 for it. Wasn't worth that kind of money. Photos please when you get the new grips and rod head.
 
A Tyler T-grip adapter will help with the tiny grip of this gun. I also have huge paws and they work wonders on the old guns.
 
I will plan on putting up some decent pics when I get it back in-shape, bannockburn. ;)

Thanks for the tip, Dframe ... <googling Tyler T-grip adapter> ...

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Aaaaaahhhhhh ... so that is what those grip adapters are. I have seen them on many small revolvers but never knew what they were called.
 
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I heard a lot of .32-20 revolvers have broken grips because someone dropped them and grabbed their ears after the first shot without hearing protection.
 
Just a long-delayed TouchBase ...

Still just chipping away at the "new" Colt. The Ejection Rod Heads that I found listed on eBay several weeks ago turned out to be a No-Go ... the guy had gotten them buying out a mass of out-of-business-gunsmith supplies and didn't know if they would fit.

Colt Parts claimed that they had one that would fit, but ... they wanted $29.95 + $6S&H. No thanks, more than I am willing to pay.

Yesterday I found some ($15) on Gunbroker that the guy claims will fit my pistol ... so I sent him the funds and will keep my fingers crossed.

The Numrich "Bolt" (to me it's a Cylinder Lock) did not work out. It turned out to be an aftermarket item that wasn't quite right. I have another currently inbound.

In the meantime, I added some J-B Weld to the worn surface of the original Cylinder Lock and carefully/slowly worked the bearing surface back down to .076" ... so, for now, the alignment is good.

There is little bit of End Shake and I have not yet decided if it is worth correcting.

I must say that this is a fun little gun to shoot. It likes the 115gr loads (3.3gr TrailBoss) better than the 100gr (4.0gr).

Still deciding upon the best way for me to hold it. ;)

On Thursday, July 02, I took possession of a ~1914 6" .32-20 S&W Model 1905 Hand Ejector. <sigh> Yeah, I know, I am eat up with it ... ;)
 
Update ...

The OEM Colt Ejector Rod Head (ERH) fellow did not work out as I had hoped. In his Gunbroker "sales" auction he stated that he had been a Colt Parts Distributor for 18 years ... so I asked him, straight up, "Will this part fit my 1912mfr Colt Police Positive Special". His categorical answer was "Yes it will fit." ... so I bought one.

Welp, "No it did not". <sigh> My ERH requires a 6/36 thread, which the provided one was not.

So I sent it back and he told me that he did not have one that would fit ... then he said that he did ... then he stopped responding to email ... then, about a week later, what looks like a homemade ERH showed up in the mail. It is well-blued and knurled ... and its axis is slightly skewed ... but it will do for now.

The guy's emails were a little strange ... perhaps O.L.D. was gnawing at him. <shrug>

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I spent Saturday honing the cylinder chambers, primarily the thoroughly-frosted throat areas. I determined the largest bore groove-diameter to be .313", but all 6 throats were between .311" and .312". I polished them to slightly over .313".

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And since I had spent a day polishing the cylinder chambers, I decided the time was right to, again, wade into the Cylinder Lock fitting. The J-B Weld temporary fix on the original Cylinder Lock was, not surprisingly, already showing wear.

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I spent (quite) a few hours Sunday carefully fitting the used OEM Cylinder Lock that I got from Numrich. In my original order I had included a screw for same, but they sent the wrong style, so the return/replacement added more wait-time. It turned out that the original screw did not fit in the used replacement Cylinder Lock, so I am very happy that I just-in-case ordered the replacement screw. ;)

The OEM Cylinder Lock required quite a bit of careful fitting. I sort of wish that I had kept a tally of how many times I partially reassembled/checked-function/disassembled .... probably about 20. Thank God for Swiss Files (as my Dad called them). :)

So the Colt alignment & lockup is permanently fixed. Nice!

Next step will be to testfire to check for any noticeable changes resulting from the chamber/throat honing. I consider this to be my test-bed for the process.

On 22Jul15 I took possession of a 2nd 5" Colt Police Positive Special (1924 and in excellent condition for $255) and on 28Jul15 I took possession of a 1922 32WCF Marlin Model 27-S pump-action rifle ($290) ... :D
 
Thanks for the update. Glad it's (eventually) working out. Check the ballistic charts sometime and you'll find the 32-20 is right respectable even today.
 
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