Need a .308 168g A-max recipe

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I usually shoot 168 grain SMK's, but I just scored some Hornaday A-Max 168 grains. Can someone look up a recipe using Hornady 168g A-Max bullets, preferably with Varget, IMR 4064 or IMR 4895 please?

These are the powders I have.

I have a Sierra loading manual, but it does not list those combinations, only the SMK's. I need the A-Max's.

Thanks..
 
Look on hodgdon's site, they have load data. Could try Hornady's site too, not sure how accessible their load data is though.

I'd also pick up some more load books.
 
The two books I have are sierra and accurate. Neither lists the Amax. Hodgdon lists the SMK's, not Amax's. Since they have different profiles / ogives, they're not interchangeable. I was hoping for some proven loads which could possibly save me some components in ladder testing seating depth experiments.
Thanks....
 
From my 7th edition hornady...

168 grain A-max
C.O.L. 2.80
IMR 4895, 43.3 MAX
Varget, 44.0 MAX

Both of those rated for 2600fps.

None listed for 4064.

Please dont start at max. Drop at least a grain or so and inch your way back up. The hornady loads are listed as using Hornady/Frontier brass, so If using NATO brass, drop 3 grains and work back up.

Im partial to 308 loads using the 4895
 
I use Hodgdons site.

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/

I've found a max load of 46 gr of Varget to work very well with a variety of different 165 and 168 gr bullets. I'd bet the A-max will be no different. I just start low and work up as usual any time I try a different bullet, but have ended up at the same point with several at around 2750-2760 fps. I've used Hornady Interlocks and SST's, Nosler BT and AB's, Sierria MK's, as well as Bergers.
 
People have won matches at 200 through 600 yards with several makes of 168-gr. bullets with any charge weight between 41 and 44 grains of IMR4064 or between 39 and 42 grains of IMR4895. All with the same barrel. There's not much difference in accuracy attainable with any charge weights in those ranges. If you shoot at least 20 shots per test group.

If one shoots 3, 5, 7 or 10 shots per test group, there's a 95% probability that all groups will be somewhere in the following percentage spread of what one group's extreme spread is:

3 shots, 41% to 244%
5 shots, 66% to 153%
7 shots, 74% to 134%

And you don't know if that single, few-shot group fired is at the large end of several or the small one. Ten or twenty shot groups are better:

10 shots, 81% to 116%
20 shots, 89% to 112%

I wouldn't get too concerned about muzzle velocity claims. It'll vary almost 100 fps for the average across several people shooting the same rifle and ammo. Same with different lots of powder and primer along with a weak firing pin spring. Hand held rifles shoot a given load much slower and with greater spread than fixed mount barreled actions. Your hand held rifle's ammo with a 50 fps spread and 20 fps standard deviation may well shoot in a 15 fps spread with a standard deviation of 6 from its barreled action in a fixed mount or the rifle fired in free recoil.
 
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