OMP hack and gun owners

Why would the Office of Personnel Management have data related to non-personnel? The FBI and ATF manage firearms-related checks. Of course, they've got their problems, too. http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/10/politics/dylann-roof-fbi-gun-south-carolina/index.html (FBI botched background check on racist killer in Charleston attack).

There was another thread on this, and there were allegations that NFA info was hacked.
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I am one of the unlucky souls that had their info stolen from OPM. I don't see why they would have any info on concealed permit holders. As for me, the hack has allowed access to my info, my family's, my relatives, my references (including their comments), work history, etc...I wish they only were ony able to take my concealed carry info.

Right with you there jr45, they got me three ways to sunday and even had to hire someone to monitor me like lifelock.

Wrong threaf!!

That hack was way far reaching.


In fact, I'm worried that the NICS data that the BATFE is supposed to delete by law (HAAA HAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAA) has also been compromised.

The OMP was sitting on old info back to 1985, much of it should have been purged long ago.

The FBI did their job perfectly.

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Wow, yea they are faultless in every way.
This whole thing is a lesson on giving up freedom for safety, it just doesn't work.

Wrong about FBI and that scumbag Roof. Sloppy local PD didn't fill out the report properly, so it didn't flag his 4473. The FBI did their job perfectly.

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Nope they called the wrong PD.

"That hack was way far reaching."
Understatement of the century. You know how the tin-foil brigade has always been muttering about the feds having 'a file' on everyone for purposes of knowing who can be blackmailed, how (ostensibly to watch for the other guy trying to do that)? Well, now the Chicoms have one, too. We'll be hearing about espionage breaches & prosecutions regularly, here on in. Quite literally the crown jewels of our domestic intelligence apparatus were left unguarded.

Which should tell us everything we'll ever need to know about how seriously the federal government takes its roles most impactful to the citizenry.

TCB

OPM is the Office of Personnel Management. The operative word being personnel. The OPM hack would be limited to anyone who has had personal involvement with the government. That would be anyone who worked for (employed by) the government, applied for a federal job, filled out the paper work for a security clearance or worked for a company that has done work for the government.

Background check records in OPM are for federal employment, security clearance, etc., not for firearm purchases (4473) or concealed carry permits unless there is such a thing as a federal CCW. 4473’s disappear (supposedly) after 24 hours. Even if the FBI and/or ATF maintained the records, they would not be part of OPMs personal files.

I expect the NICS data has been shared with INTERPOL for a number of years.

If you believe all these records have been hacked and will do harm, posting on a forum does you no favors.

We live in the modern age, share your information as you please. When you type "ar" in Google and "ar15 parts" pops up, you have already given up your "privacy".

Personally I'm not worried. Take a non shooter shooting and gun culture will be the norm it should be.

HB

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The OPM hack would be limited to anyone who has had personal involvement with the government.

Wrong. If you are closely associated with someone who has been investigated for a security clearance, there is a chance your name, date of birth and SSN are also on file. More info if they find you "interesting". When I got my last clearance, a smattering of family, friends and coworkers got visits. They were investigated to see what kind of people i associated with. Their stuff went on file, too.

They are currently admitting that almost 7 percent of the U.S. population has been compromised. Things like this never get better with time, there will be further damage revealed soon, I think. Just six weeks ago, they admitted to four million. Then eighteen million. Today, it stands at 21.5 million.

Wrong. If you are closely associated with someone who has been investigated for a security clearance, there is a chance your name, date of birth and SSN are also on file.

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As far as I know, DIS does not collect SSNs for folks not identified in the SF86.

So how do you know if your information was hacked? Are they notifying you of this?

Thermactor said:

That hack was way far reaching.


In fact, I'm worried that the NICS data that the BATFE is supposed to delete by law (HAAA HAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAA) has also been compromised.

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In that scene he was referring to going through the local gun store's files and getting the 4473s. (which by B.A.T.F.E. regulations have to be kept for 20 years.)

"It is amusing to think that this now include fedgov politicians, though"
I find it amusing to think that hackers have basically replaced the press in dredging up dirt on politicians...hopefully we get some informative nuggets from these lemons at the end of the day, and not just the loss of our most important sensitive information to our greatest geo-political foe (imagine if a list of this scale found its way into the hands of the Russians in the '60s)

TCB

It's amusing to see people believe their employer, bank, doctor, et al will have greater firewalls and other security measures than the gov.
Every day we become more dependent and at the same time more vulnerable.
With the huge data collection being compiled by the US how can we ever believe that the same wont be compromised by negligence, espionage, or simply a disgruntled worker.
If it hasn't been already.
It seems that a lot of tinfoil hattery is coming to pass these days.

carbine85 said:

So how do you know if your information was hacked? Are they notifying you of this?

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Yes, they are notifying gov employees by email or snail mail if needed.

They also provide a link to a credit and identity theft monitoring service that the government has contracted with. The coverage lasts a year, which is totally inadequate IMO.

The latest number I heard on CNN is 21.5 million SS numbers were stolen. This includes current and retired employees. I think the real problem is in government employee beneficiaries.

When you sign up as a federal employee you designate beneficiaries if you die so the gov knows who to pay your life insurance, retirement benefits, and 401K to. You are required to supply the SS numbers of your beneficiaries. So if they stored all that info together, China got a lot of info on citizens of this country.

As far as the possible repercussions to or possible blackmail of gun owners, I really doubt anything will happen. My bigger concern is China using this data to really ruin our financial system and the finances of a large portion of our country.

US government computer systems are so far behind the private sector it is pathetic. The hardware is terribly underpowered and the software is a joke. There are days were something that should take me 30 minutes to accomplish takes hours, simply because the computer systems we use are garbage. My agency used to have a PC replacement program. Not any more. They replace a PC when it breaks. I had an IT buddy in my agency tell me that if I wanted a new computer, I should stick a paper clip in the main cooling fan so the mother board burns up.

I sure hope the DOD has better equipment than my agency. Though a special forces buddy of mine tells me he deals with the same issues.

US government computer systems are so far behind the private sector it is pathetic. The hardware is terrible underpowered and the software is a joke.

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Funny, that seems true for the systems that WE would wish to have kept secure but it seems when keeping an eye on us they use the state of the art.

That's why they want to take more money out of your wallet - so they can buy some more outdated junk from somebody's brother in law.

460Kodiak said:

Yes, they are notifying gov employees by email or snail mail if needed.

They also provide a link to a credit and identity theft monitoring service that the government has contracted with. The coverage lasts a year, which is totally inadequate IMO.

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Not that it's much better, but the Email I received states 18 months of credit monitoring etc. When I registered on the site it also said 18 months. I've gone ahead and put fraud alerts in place on all my accounts.

Unfortunately, I had just submitted for my clearance to be updated last year as some of us at work had our secret clearances upgraded. Now they've got my latest data.

On the plus side I did get an email from some babe named Olga that wants to e my pen pal. Maybe it's related?

Chuck

Kaeto said:

In that scene he was referring to going through the local gun store's files and getting the 4473s. (which by B.A.T.F.E. regulations have to be kept for 20 years.)

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Its not secret that the ATF routinely goes to FFLs and copies records into a central database.