Sig P938 accuracy issues

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I don't consider myself a terrible shot (though others might!), but I cannot get this damn sig to shoot straight to save my life- which is not as much a figure of speech as you'd think, since this is a carry pistol. I shoot a lot of small handguns, and haven't had any issues handling or shooting accurately until now, so I'm hesitant to chalk my experience with this Sig Sauer (the most expensive pistol I've ever purchased) up to clumsy shooting until I ask some opinions on here and maybe call Sig and pick their brain.

I have put around 200 rounds through it either one handed standing, two handed standing, sitting, sitting with a rest, etc, and have had the same results. I tried using the pad of my finger, the bend of my finger, and only the tip of my finger with not much variation. Maybe I just need more practice, but so far I am NOT thrilled with the 1 foot+ spread of this thing at 10-15 yards. My LCP outshoots this (or maybe, I outshoot myself using the p938 with the LCP) hands down, even quick draw and rapid fire.

Any tips to ensuring it's not just me? I'm sure it probably is, but that still may make me trade the gun for something I can fire more accurately and instinctively.

Target picture was at about 10 yards, maybe just over.

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If you do well with other small pistols it may well be the gun. Have someone else try it and see how they do. If there is a range that you could rent one and try it yourself that would tell you if it is you or the gun. If you do well with the rental it is the gun. If the outcome is the same it is you. I love the looks of those little guys but can't justify the price for yet another small 9mm. That shotgun pattern doesn't make it I'm afraid. Good luck.
 
This is good advice from Capt. Ct. I've had my P938 Extreme for about 2-1/2 months. I bought it to be my EDC it after renting one at a local range. Even though I'm Geezer Certified (70+), I'm able to consistently get fist size center-of-mass groups at 15 yds with a two-handed grip. I may not be the best shot but, when I do my part, the pistol seems more than capable of doing what I bought to do.
 
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My Colt Mustang shoots a less than 8.5x11" size group at 20 yds. My Bersa Thunder 380 shoots groups half that size. I believe the Mustang's shortcomings are due to the lack of a barrel bushing and slop in the compact, delayed blowback operation. Also; miniscule sights.
The Bersa is a bigger gun with better sights and a barrel firmly attached to the grip frame. That said, the Mustang is a more pleasant gun to shoot due to the Browning delayed blowback operation
For reference; I (used to) shoot the Bullseye NMC .45 match in the mid 260's out of a possible 300 score. So I'm no genius.
 
I own a 938 and it shoots much better than I can. It is the most accurate short-barreled pistol I have ever fired. ArmedOkie, I'm very curious about what you find out about your pistol. I'm sure Sig would want to know about one of their products that shoots that badly.

A related note: I see that you have an extended magazine. Having that extra lip makes the gun much more controllable for follow-up shots. Good choice.

Please let us know how this turns out.
 
OP, sorry to read about your problem with the p938. Something is not correct I have both P238 and P938 and don't have any problems keeping my shots in a 5 inch circle at 10 yards. I used to do better but do to health problems that is the best I have done with the Sigs. Let us know hot this turns out.
 
My wife and I both have the P938. From a rest I could easily empty the mag from either into the green area (3 inches?) on your target at ten yards. P938's are great shooters.
 
Ive ordered a 20lb hammer spring. We will see if a gentler trigger helps me out on this. Im assuming the problem lies behind the gun (as usual), but a lighter trigger should make things easier on me.
 
Wow, I'm having the same issue, but not quite that bad. 2" right leg handed, 2" left and 1" high right handed. Trying to use the tippy tip of my finger. Can't tell if it's just the gun or me being spoiled by bolt rifles and revolvers.
 
Off the cuff, I would say flinching (no offense intended), but you mention you shoot small handguns often.
Could it be the sights? With the SIG sights of grayish color, I noticed that light conditions play an important role. I can´t shoot it straight at time of twilight. Your gun seems to have the same sights. I suggest painting the top edge of both the sights black with a permanent marker, at least.
I also noticed I shoot the gun more accurately at longer distance if I keep my strong arm straight and also wrap the index finger of my support hand around the trigger guard.
To conclude, I tend to trust the P938 when it comes to accuracy. Out of the box (I got mine last September) I shot a group of 5 with 4 holes almost touching and one flyer within several inches. That was at 25 meters. At 100 meters I managed to shoot a group of 5 with a 10 inch spread and another one within a foot. Used factory 124 gr FMJs. At the usual practice distance of 7-10 it shoots within a fist / palm size depending upon my speed of presenting and firing the gun.
Good luck!
 
No offense with this, but generally, when shots are that scattered...it is the shooter and not the gun.

Believe me, when I tell you that I have a couple of guns that I shoot this same way...a Glock 17 and a Ruger New Vaquero...just something about those 2 guns that I cannot get a handle on...others can shoot them well. Now, I have no other Glock's, but I do have a safe full of single action's that I have no issue with.
 
No offense taken at all, fellas. I'm no expert marksman. I can also relate with another poster above who said they are more familiar with revolvers. I basically always shoot revolvers, particularly single action armies, and I haven't owned a non-DA auto for two or three years until now. Just gonna take practice with this heavy single action pull I think.

update to this situation, however:

I put a foam earplug under my hammer (don't have snap caps) and dry fired for fifteen minutes or so last night, getting used to where the trigger breaks. Took her out today and shot an actual pattern! I could probably cover it with my hand, which is acceptable to me at 15 yards. It did, however, pattern slightly high and left. I assume this indicates I'm gripping the trigger incorrectly still? This gun is much more picky than my kel tecs or rugers have been.

Another issue is that after 50 rounds or so, I had a fail to fire- appears that the firing pin got stuck??? I pulled the trigger and recocked 3 times before it finally went off. Scary... I cleaned and lubed it when I got home. Hopefully that doesn't happen again.
 
I should add, the primer was NOT hit at all. I ejected the round, and fired three times on the subsequent round before getting ignition. After that, the gun functioned flawlessly again for the remainder of the session (around 125 rounds).
 
I never got around to shooting a P938, but my P238 was a tack driver. The trigger factored heavily into the excellent accuracy.
It has since been replaced by a CM9 (which it seems I shoot just as well), but I would imagine the P238's bigger brother would share many of the same traits, including accuracy.

As mentioned previously, let someone else who's equally proficient with smaller pistols take a go with it. If it's still all over the place, then you'll have a better idea where the fault lies.
 
I wonder if a slightly larger set of rubber (hogue?) grips would keep that pistol from moving in your hand when the trigger breaks.
 
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