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There has been a post or two on different forums "validating" BB's figures (though I cannot remember if they were for the .357 Magnum or some of the other calibres BB loads). You might try searching on some of the other forums A point to remember is that BB (like DT) as a manufacturer has...
It all depends the loads you compare:
10mm with a 200 gr. bullet @1100 fps has a TKO 13 (your example)
.357 Magnum with a 180-grain bullet @1375 has a TKO 13 (Buffalo Bore)
.41 Magnum with a 230-grain bullet @1450 has a TKO of 20 (Buffalo Bore)
The 10mm remains the autoloader equivalent...
Oh, really?
Let's see. Glock imitated an HK polymer frame. Glock imitated a SIG modified-Browning lock-up. Glock imitated a Steyr striker-fire system.
FWIW, both the XD and Beretta are a long, long ways from being Glock imitations (though most people who know much about handguns should...
There hasn't been anything in this thread even close to saying "the 10mm will always be inferior to the 357mag." In fact, what the thread has said is that the 10mm is every bit as good as the .357 Magnum (and vice versa). There's been a lot data posted for Double Tap, Black Hills and Buffalo...
Not really. It's ultimately a platform issue not a performance issue.
If you want .357 Magnum level performance with an autoloader, you get a 10mm.
If you want 10mm level performance with a revolver, you get a .357 Magnum.
If you want more than 10mm (or .357 Magnum) level...
Nope, critrxdoc, you're wrong about the fair comparison. The numbers quoted are from a four-inch L-frame:
The .357 Magnum from a four-inch revolver can easily match the 10mm from a Glock 20. There's nothing deceptive about it (though you might want to ask or do a little more research before...
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John, I really figured most people with even rudimentary knowledge of American history (or British, French or German for that matter) would understand that trenches (trench warfare) was the salient characteristic of The Great War (1914-1918). My bad.
Effectiveness depends largely on the bullet. It's really not just about the calibre. The 10mm, with the right bullets, can be every bit as effective as the .40 S&W or any of the service calibres; however, just driving a bullet faster does not necessarily make it more effective. There's a lot...
Yep, John, most of us knew that which explains why the remark was clearly in jest :) in response to an earlier post (#25).
I'm sorry, but I really didn't realize you weren't aware the Glock wasn't around in 1914-1918 (or that anybody would be so sensitive as to interpret the remark as even...
OF -
I'm not too sure about your source (or maybe your typing ;) ). The Colt 1908 was a "hammerless" (enclosed hammer) model with a safety. If the author was speaking of the "COLT MODEL 1903 POCKET HAMMER," it might have been "an excellent fighting pistol" in his opinion, but based on its...
The 686 handles silty, sediment filled water better than an autoloader. You get into water with a real heavy silt load, and it plays havoc with autoloaders and their magazines.
OF -
It probably was in non-military circles. Your original question to me, however, concerned intent--not what was actual practice with non-military users (which doesn't necessarily equate to what was intended which is what I thought you and I were talking about based on your Post #26...
The differences in common handgun calibres is seriously overrated. There's really not a whole lot to suggest/support any differences in effectiveness between any of the calibres you cited (particulary with FMJ ammunition) while logistics, capacity and training favour the 9x19.
The M9 is...
The reason for the longer/wider hammer spur was never left in doubt. The Army said: "in order to provide more thumb contact during cocking."
Maybe. But when they published the "operator's manual" (FM 23-35), they say absolutely nothing about thumb cocking--in fact, they only recognize/teach...
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