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Yikes! 50% ??? Last time I think I saw that was on graduation day from Air Force OCS.

SafeGuy, I stand corrected on the burglar shooting the safe. I must have missed that post. I was struck by never having thought about a round cooking off chambered in my .45 inside the safe, and that got my attention. My apologies for missing that particular post. Deleted my erroneous post...

Keizer, I'd buy a safe from SafeGuy. I do think he's out of his depth a little and a1abdj is very much the expert, but I think what I've gleaned from this thread is that . . . a) you should realistically evaluate your security and fire protection needs, and b) not believe all the...

Deleted for inaccuracy. Properly corrected by SafeGuy.

You know what I really need? A used GSA Class 6 two-drawer file safe. About $1,750. Get my papers and momentos out of the gun safe and into that, my guns into the Lincoln, and . . . DONE!

Now that's brilliant! Instead of spending a ton of dough on a 'real' safe big enough for a big collection of long guns and important papers and some real valuables, like jewelry (I don't have much of that, by the way), maybe the answer is to get a 'decent', large, 10-gauge gun safe with...

Usually (I suspect) the really important papers are a small part of the safe contents. I have one of these in the bottom of my safe. It makes me feel better about birth certs, naturalization papers for my wife, my military discharge papers, photos. It' ain't perfect, but it has to help.

Dang! Never even gave that a moment's thought! One carry gun is always loaded, from holster to safe, to holster again. I don't unload it because I've driven the bullet in too deep from repeated rechamberings, so It just stays loaded 24/7 until I get to the range. It was pointed the wrong way...

Hmmm. Sounds like you don't think storing ammo in a safe is a big deal, then. Interesting how it gets around the Internet so much. I've seen that before, though, misinformation repeated so many times it 'becomes truth'. I've been guilty of repeating it myself, if this is true about storing...

How dangerous is storing a large amount of ammo in a safe, then, SafeGuy? I just don't know, I've always heard it makes a safe, especially the less sturdy ones, a potential bomb. What are the dangers. I know it is not recommended, though, you want holes for venting burning gasses to alleviate...

NO! Don't store ammo in a safe! Ammo actually is not explosive if not contained, it just burns fast with lots of smoke. It won't launch bullets either. They'll pop out and go a short distance but because the gas is not enclosed behind them in a barrel, they don't push the bullets far or fast...

From another gun forum, not here. Was in a post about Zanoti Armor modular safes, and apparently they are held in high regard if you need a modular safe for any reason. I'm seeing more of these, perhaps I simply wasn't tuned into them before, but I am darned glad I got 5 years out of my...

And I think that is a killer deal, right there.

By the way, just because I'm bored, I guess, I've tried manipulating my own S&G 6730 for hours and am completely baffled by it and I KNOW my combination! I think I have a pretty thorough understanding of how it's supposed to work and I can't do anything with it. That makes that fellow in the...

I'm not sure what is exposed, and a1abdj is understandably reticent to add details, but what I gleaned from that (and I could be dead wrong) is there are ways you can attack the electronic locks through the spindle hole, not necessarily just by drilling but stuff done with other tools, that...

Game over! Post #56 Post # 28 I'd say that's [/thread] game point to a1abdj. Sounds like you actually agree with what a1 posted? Liberty Lincoln 25 from Dean's Safe listed for $1,899 http://www.deansafe.com/modellx25.html Amsec BF 6030 (approx the same dimensions) listed at...

Ouch! Well, at least a few of them do get through fires, to be fair, we've seen the vids. But I'm still sold by the inductive argument that practically all or virtually all UL rated fire safes and media vaults use some form of cast insulation and have for decades, and none of them use gypsum...

Browning Gold or Platinum series?? Based on handle and dial positions and hinges.

I shouldn't jump between you guys, but I'm gonna anyway. I'm dumb that way. :D a1abdj is right, the Amvault most definitely does not have a UL class 350 one-hour rating. From their website . .. I also started a search for a safe that was big enough to be considered a gun safe, and had...

Ryan, that video is pretty well-known, has been around quite a while and on quite a few sites. Bolting your safe down helps a lot in that regard. Mine is in a corner against a left wall, so they can't really pry that side. Although they could pry the right side it's much tougher standing up than...