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It is hard to judge when the games use birdshot instead of buck.

I have a Montefeltro too. It is a great gun. The only thing I don't like is that you can't clean the magazine tube. Why did they do that?

When a semi auto shotgun has a malfunction, it can be very time consuming to fix. When a pump gun has problems, it is usually a short shuck or some variation of a short shuck. The fix is much faster ... just pump again and shoot.

Here is another reason to go with the M2, the SBE II chokes on standard 7.5 birdshot a lot. One M2 can do duck and dove.

I think you can do everything you need to with the M2. The other guns are nice. But, I can hunt anything I want with 3" shells.

Point taken. Maybe I should expand my classifications of shotguns? 1. Pump guns 2. Semi auto tube fed shoguns 3. Saigas I have never fired a Saiga shotgun. But, they sound like they are revolutionary. P.S. That being said, for home defense, I think I would not be willing to trade rate...

Have you done this with 00 buck? Dumping rounds is pointless. I am talking about putting 00 BUCKSHOT on several targets. When you use 00 buck, the gap between semi auto and pump closes.

I did two informal tests today with my 870 and Benelli M2 to address the speed of semiauto shotgun vs a pump gun for home defense. Q: I know a semiauto is much faster than a pump with birdshot. But, is it much faster with 00 buck? If I wanted to be completely scientific, I would have...

I noticed that some of my 7.5 shells are 1200 fps and some are 1290. Is that enough to make a difference in your lead?

This year, I have getting out to shoot skeet, trap, and sporting clays to help me suck less when hunting season starts. I have been able to get where I can consistently shoot about 20 out of 25 in skeet and trap. All my shooting is with Federal bulk pack 7.5s that have a shot velocity of 1200...

The professional I mentioned that I wanted to cut it down is actually Carlsons. If they do it, do you think there are issues with the chrome flaking off?

I have a 28" Benelli M1S90 barrel that I want to have professionally cut down to 21". They are not going to install chokes, just relocate the bead sight. Will the resulting 21" barrel be cylinder choke? My purpose for this gun will be home defense.

You don't need porting. And, you don't need ghost ring sights. A shotgun is a close range weapon. A plain 870 with a bead sight and an 18" barrel is all you need. Buy ammo and train. The 870 is one of the biggest money pits in all of the gun world. Guns are not tactical, your behavior...

It is not the ammunition and it is not a twig. It is the crap preservative that Remington puts in their 870 Express barrels. You have to scrub it out AND polish it with the technique I posted above. This has been covered millions of times.

I wouldn't worry about it. Once you get it extracting, it is an awesome gun.

This is easily fixable. Read this http://www.aiptactical.com/Page_2.html I bought 4 870 Expresses in December. All four did what you experienced. Now, they run flawlessly. P.S. I love my 870s. However, the President of Remington should be firing immediately for letting these guns out...

"A semi-auto minor caliber rifle will make anything stop moving in a city as quick or quicker than a shotgun" Wrong. Rifles and Shotguns (up close) will both fail sometimes to stop a bad guy. The shotgun will fail less often.

100yds in 30 seconds. My grandma can do that. And, she is dead. It makes me laugh how people try to justify being in poor physical shape. A true fighter is not 100% dependent on any weapon. He is the weapon.

In addition to the higher hit probability, the shotgun I believe give the fastest target incapacitation. Nothing is for sure. Both rifles and shotguns can fail to incapacitate quickly. But, I believe the shotgun will fail less often. Up close, speed of incapacitation is key. While they...

"at least with most rattlers, you get a warning before things get ooogly" Sometimes.