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im on sniperhides also posted their as well as searched...nothing. I have seen the winchester and the liberty but only one of each...I have seen the same one on a number of sites/forums...but those are the same two that seem to have been floating around for a long time now.

Feel free to post the links and pictures...I scoured looking for this stuff and I could not find it. I am on numerous forums and saw nothing...thefiringline, mp-pistols, THR, AR15, m4, walther, xcr, acr, etc...nothing

Guys I ended up doing a lower cost safe. I spoke with my Insurance agent and several police friends and went with a Champion Model T. It was 650 and does really what I need. It will be bolted down and in a corner. All my cop buddies told me the same...they have never seen a safe breached...

I have an SR15E3 and I have put a hogue grip on it. I like it but want one that is going to cover the web of my hand better. I am not a fan of hard plastic grips like the MIAD because but I cant recall it I ever held an AR15 with the MIAD...honestly just dont remember which means it didnt...

So no info of the amsec drylight? It isn't concrete, not as dense, nor as hard or strong. But still impressive. So my delema is how well will a 11gauge wall with drylight hold up to an attack with an axe or sledge compared to a 7 gauge? This is my hold up on the amsec. I am so unfamilar with...

We pretty much know a 12 gauge will not hold up. And a 10 gauge isnt much better. Sturdy and CE Safes new Fort Knox with 7 gauge can take the hit. But will something like a Amsec BF? I am only talking body here not the door for all the doors are typically thick enough to hold off anything. But...

Oh and my mistake...meant TF6030. BF is the best from Amsec. If I could get it for 1200...I wouldnt be looking at anything else. It really is one of the best safes out!

Summitt Series Ranier is another I discovered. It hits all the minimums. Price is decent and looks like a quality safe. I dont know where is is made or much of the inside. The website doesnt have too much detail or pictures on it.

The rhino 56 is the top of my list. Seems to have all the fixing I need 10 gauge (I would like better but this is at least the minimum I will do in a safe). I also looked at a steelwater which was 1499 shipped and has 9 gauge body with a 1/4" plus solid steel door. I was pretty impressed with...

Safe $1500 budget! Would love to do less! UPDATED! Ok I am rethinking my safe approach. I look at it from a perspective that I would have this for a long time! I dont have a substantially firearms investment but I have enough with ammo to know I dont want to lose it! I estimate my guns are...

I hate to say it... I Backed out of the Winchester. I put money down on it to hold it after initially seeing it and went to pay the remaining amont where I got more time to look closer...the door doesnt close tightly, you can rattle it when it is locked...very sloppy. There was so much play in...

Ordered the winchester. Found shipping and installation for 195...I will take it!

Thanks teach, you hit it on the head "People who live in remote, isolated areas probably need better protection. People with large, expensive collections probably need better protection. The average shooter with $5K in firearms probably needs a RSC, a decent alarm, and a rider on their...

If someone knows what they are doing...aka a pro...that is what insurance is for. All my stuff is insured. They can have it at that point. If anyone has a substantial collection and relies solely on their safe is asking for trouble. I have neither a substantial collection or live in a high...

Safe is ul tested, and it uses a lagard keypad/lock. Lock is UL rated also. Do yourself a favor...as I have done for myself. Go look at the Winchester that I am considering. Then go look at the comparable Stack on or Sentry as I have also...also look at the comparable liberty...either at...

Ok...found my safe. Winchester at TSC. It is 100 over budget but worth every penny and more. Its a 24 gun fire safe (initially I was looking at 14 gun ones), 10+ locking bolts 1.5" thick each locks on all 4 sides. great interior great door (thick), great electronic lock (although I strongly...

Went to Dicks and noticed they had the Field and Stream...aka stack on...which were quite a surprise. They were built better than I thought! The 24 gun was 12 gauge, 6 bolts (3 live 3 dead), interior was really better than I expected. Fireproof and big! $599!!! I also saw that Samsclub has...

The Lowes Centurion by Liberty is not bad for the 400 it cost...a little small inside. I also saw a Sentry Executive 14-gun safe not fire proof...I dont really need one that is. Seemed alright for 450. it is under budget. It has all the storage shelves that would work for me. Doesnt seem...

Saw it...those safes alone cost far more than my best AR completely dressed out. My ARs are insured, I have no collectables and dont have that many rifles or pistols so this is more of a deterrent...in my neighborhood no one is going to be carrying this off either. Dont live any anything close...

Ok so I have 4 pistols and 3 (soon to be (4) Long Guns (12g, 22ar, ar15). I would like to get some ammo in there as well. I have 2-3k of 9mm, 2500 of 556, 2500 22lr, and 300 of 12g. Would like to be under 500 for a safe. Combo only, safe is in a dry basement that is around 64 degrees year...