Hi,
I see a lot of discussion about how much fire power is needed to stop a marauder in his/her tracks.
However as an owner of a small farm in the UK I have a mental image of most post-SHTF marauder gangs being made up of hungry city workers with their wives and children. They might be...
Hah! Here in the UK if you even say the word 'gun' a SWAT team will be on your case.
For example, back in 2004 a guy was carrying a wooden chair leg in a plastic bag ... it looked like a gun apparently, so the police shot him dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3965207.stm
For some strange reason immediately after the war ended the British people chucked out Churchill and put in place a Socialist government.
Need I say more?
These two were LOUD, in the days before ear defenders:
- Firing a .303 Lee-Enfield in 25 yard brick walled range
- Acting as loader for a Bren .303 magazine fed MG ... which has some sort of vile exhaust gas port which blasts into the loader's ears.
Also: Not a gun - but LOUD -...
Laws - including gun laws - are mainly intended to scare off the people who MIGHT commit crimes.
Hardened criminals simply don't care about laws, and so will obtain guns from somewhere, even in 'gun free' countries.
So the arguments relating to gun control laws should really focus on the...
I posted a serious question in a slightly contentious manner.
I learned what I wanted - although I hadn't expected everyone and their aunty to post a response!
Also, the majority of the responses have been informative, polite and helpful.
Anyway, maybe it's time to call an end to this...
Thanks HL5 !
I doubt I'll be coming over any time soon as I've changed career and so no longer travel much.
I used to work in bank vault technology which meant a lot of foreign travel ... and a lot of exposure to guns in various countries ... but very little exposure to sunlight...
If I had 10,000+ cartridges at home? Sheesh, yes. My guns would be GONE.
You can also lose your guns for a while if you get divorced or separated.
I know one guy whose hearing got very bad - so they took his guns permanently.
You do now need a reason. My firearms officer specifically required that I give one at my interview. Try getting a shotgun certificate without a reason!
My firearms officer recited a list of official bodies that had been checked prior to the interview. Apparently the security services are...
This IS research. In real-time!
My original post was indeed intended to catch the eye ... and by the number or responses it seems to have worked.
The responses in this thread are so wide ranging and detailed that this data could be used as a course project for a student.
I now have a...
Hmm - is it fairer on society to allow a very free access to firearms which then permits drunks, angry spouses, children and fools to kill innocent people?
I found this on the web - could be accurate:
A statistician might disagree, but I would take this data to suggest that easier access...
Very good question.
I would indeed like to buy what I want.
But do I really need an AR-15 'just for fun'?
And more importantly do I want the local unemployed dope dealers to have easier access to firearms? (UK crooks can currently get access to guns - but usually imitations or...
The Brits too.
... Boer War, WW1, WW2, Korea, Malaysia, Borneo, Falklands, Balkans, Iraq #1, Iraq #2, Libya, Afghanistan - more than once.
We just don't encourage bringing the war toys back to our homes.
Nope.
Our law says:
Minimum of 6 pellets per cartridge. Max pellet size around US 00.
Max 3 shots in a shotgun.
Min barrel length 26".
Min weapon length for autos and pumps: 40".
Not that many in the UK ever shoot such heavy shotgun ammunition.
Agreed.
99.9999% of Europeans would regard this whole conversation with incredulity.
To almost all Europeans it is TOTALLY INCONCEIVABLE that anyone would want or need to walk around anywhere in public with a uncased rifle strapped to their back.
Forget the legal rights etc you have in...
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