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The Realgun article you posted indicates it was both lengthened and enlarged. It says it went from 1.55 to 1.586" in diameter. My math was wrong, it is still closer to an L-frame in size, but I don't know why they needed to enlarge it. The L-frame handles .44 mag at 1.56".

I wonder why they had to beef up the cylinder diameter so much for a .44 Special? Seems odd. The cylinder diameter is closer in diameter to an N-frame than an L-frame now. Seems unnecessary and undesirable for a carry gun.

The Ruger Americans have not grown on me, but I would love to see a Hawkeye Compact in .450 Bushmaster in blue steel and walnut. I probably would not buy it because I already have a .45-70 Guide Gun, but I would try really hard to convince myself I needed one.

Tirod, how long do you think a patent lasts? (Hint: it has already been covered). That should answer some of your questions about 1911s and AR-15s. If you don't even know that much, you probably should do some reading rather than ranting. That's like talking about astronomy and not knowing that...

I was speaking a bit to your point about the 3" being primarily a carry length. It is just sort of in an awkward position. All the downsides of size and weight of a midsize gun, the same downsides in terms of capacity as a small gun, and no upside in terms of power like a magnum offers. For the...

True, but it is even heavy compared to modern fullsize service weapons, not just compact revolvers.

Relative to other common carry guns.

At 3" or 4.2", it is still quite heavy for a carry gun.

Just looked at a picture, I never realized how small a RAMI is.

36oz, not exactly a lightweight.

I think there is not enough meat for a .45 Colt or .45 ACP. Remember .45 ACP is bigger than .44 Special AND higher pressure than .44 Special, so you would be weakening the gun while also asking more from it in terms of strength.

He said in post #13 that this question isn't related to carry ammo.

Also, regarding the mention of patents, I was addressing your eroneous comment that "if there is no patent or copyright, then there is no intellectual property" and then your numerous examples of infringement, most of which are neither patent nor copyright issues.

Your argument is logically analogous to saying, "because I see crime, there are no laws." However, hundreds of thousands of incarcerated folks would disagree. Similarly, because you see what you believe to be infringement, you assume intellectual property is a fantasy, but defendents who have...

Most of the examples you named, such as the AR15, can be copied because the patents are expired. Patents only secure a finite period of protection. Also Samsung was ordered to pay hundreds of millions of dollars to Apple over the iPhone design patents, though SCOTUS recently reversed the...

Those measurements are the same as what I found. Doesn't seem like much, but when you consider the step between a J and K frame is .14" and the step between an L to an N is .15", the Redhawk cylinder is another half-step up from the already-large N frame.

Sig 290RS HK P30SK and P2000SK Beretta Storm SC I think there was a SIG250 subcompact.

No offense, but Wiley Clapp's opinion on the matter isn't worth much. As someone who works in intellectual property, a few comments: - The public perception of the level of novelty required to get a patent is generally pretty elevated compared to what is actually required. Lots of really...

Seems to be neither fish nor fowl. It is a huge chunk of steel with a tiny barrel. A Redhawk cylinder is significantly larger than even an N-frame cylinder, but then it has a "carry length" barrel on it? I can't see what use I would personally ever have for it, but maybe someone else can. With...

Like I said, if you restrain it well, that is true. If not, not so much. Here is limp wrist videos of a Glock. It does get an extra kick when the slide reaches its maximum rearward travel (ie all of the momentum has been transferred to the gun as a whole), but as you'll see, the gun does plenty...